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  • Software for 120 fps for Varicam

    Posted by Sean Fine on March 17, 2006 at 9:59 pm

    I have heard a few rumors of software than can help make Varicam footage 120fps—-Is there any truth to the rumors. If so where can I get more info.

    Thansk,
    Sean

    Uli Plank replied 20 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Leo Ticheli

    March 19, 2006 at 1:27 pm

    No.

    Good shooting!

    Leo

  • Tony

    March 19, 2006 at 4:25 pm

    Actually there there are indeed retiming software applications which emulate 120 fps. The camera head itself is not capable of shooting 120 discrete frames.

    On the Panasonic Technical Instructions Varicam 27F DVD there is a demonstration of one application called “Raze” (I think I got the spelling on the name right) which did the 120 frame emulation.

    There are other applications available just do a search on google.

    Tony Salgado

  • Sean Fine

    March 20, 2006 at 3:26 am

    Thanks Tony,
    I have googled the program you mentioned and other search terms and come up with nothing. Any other info would be greatly appreciated.

    Sean

  • Matthew Romanis

    March 20, 2006 at 4:45 am

    There is Twixtor for FCP, though I’m not really a fan of how it works the interpolation, and of course it is render heavy.

  • Tony

    March 20, 2006 at 6:16 am

    I think the software might be from a Japanese firm as the Panasonic DVD I have is both in Japanese and English.

    Maybe Jeff Merritt might be able to enlighten us more.

    Tony Salgado

  • Jeff Merritt

    March 20, 2006 at 12:24 pm

    Hi,

    As was previous stated, there is no software to make the VariCam capable of acquiring at 120 Fps. The fastest frame rates are 59.94 or 60.00 in the “H” version depending on the set ups.

    This is a strong request from many customers so perhaps in some future version in the next couple of years we might see this, but for now it is simply not possible with the current technology in the VariCam.

    Having said that, I’m quite sure that there are people who will be able to simulate this effect in post. Of course one way would be to speed up the 60:00 Fps by double, record it to another machine, and then slow it down to 24 Fps. This would render some type of “super Slo-mo” but with some obvious artifacts.

    Regards,

    Jeff Merritt
    Product Line Business Manager
    High Definition Products
    Panasonic Broadcast
    323-436-3676

  • Nic Adlerton

    March 23, 2006 at 2:58 pm

    You can simulate faster frame rates in post and the results vary depending upon the footage shot and the software you use.

    Take a look at Twixtor, which will run in After Effects, Final Cut and Shake. Also take a look at The Foundry’s Furnace package for Shake (and others) which has some excellent retiming algorithms.

    We shot a spot on film at 25 and 50fps, did the post in HD and managed to slow the footage down an incredible amount. It took a lot of tweaking to avoid artifacts – and it’s not perfect – but cost less than hiring a high speed camera. I could link you to a clip if you want.

  • Sean Fine

    March 23, 2006 at 3:28 pm

    Thanks I would love to see a clip.

    Sean

  • Nic Adlerton

    March 24, 2006 at 4:01 pm

    Sean

    Take a look here:

    https://www.simplicityfilms.com/video/PES5Spot.mov

    It’s in Quicktime 7 (H264) format. If you can’t see it I should be able to do a WMV. Forgive the poor resizing and the dark gamma – I didn’t encode it myself!

  • Uli Plank

    March 24, 2006 at 11:16 pm

    After Effects 7 has it’s own optical flow filter for retiming. It’s about as good (and as slow!) as Twixtor.

    Another option is ReTimer from Realviz, France.

    Hope this helps,

    Uli

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