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  • 8 gig cards?

    Posted by Lars Wikstrom on December 7, 2007 at 6:33 am

    How much are they and where can I buy them? I did a google search and nothing really good came up and a couple stores are still selling 8 gigs for $900 ?

    Thanks

    -Lars

    Lars Wikstrom replied 18 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    December 7, 2007 at 7:04 am
  • Rennie Klymyk

    December 7, 2007 at 5:50 pm

    They no longer show up on the Panny web site but the 16GB cards are $900.00 list price so you must be finding dealers with old stock.

  • Lars Wikstrom

    December 7, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    That is why they are hard to find. I find that kind of lame that they discontinue the lower end cards. I am getting the feeling that they want to keep the prices inflated by discontinuing the 8 gig cards and having the 16 be the same price. They should keep 8 gig cards and charge the 4 to 5 hundred for them.

    So when 64’s come out they will get rid of the 16’s always keeping the price high.

    I like going to matin

  • Vince Becquiot

    December 8, 2007 at 4:53 pm

    Well, I’m sure they have to keep every single existing production line going on the 32 to even get close to meeting the demand. No point in wasting those lines on last year’s model…

    Vince

  • Rennie Klymyk

    December 8, 2007 at 7:40 pm

    It’s the same as SD and CF memory cards when the 1st digital still cameras came out. My 1st digital still cam came with an 8 or 16 MB card and I paid $450.00 extra for a 96MB card. Then came the 128’s; 256’s; 384’s; 512’s etc. Try and fine a 96MB card now a-days and would it be worth anything when we can get 4GB cards for $100.00. When P2 gets up to 64 and 128 GB a lot of people will sell their 4, 8, 16GB cards cheap on ebay.

    I still have my $450.00 -96MB CF card and use it occasionally for transferring data and things. It paid for itself no problem but I would never buy another at any price now that the GB sized cards are available so cheap.

  • Lars Wikstrom

    December 8, 2007 at 10:40 pm

    Thank you, I do see your point. But I can buy a SD 2 gig card for $20. They should keep the 8 gigs are $450 instead of the base price starting at $900. I still see no reason why they can’t keep 8 gigers around at a lower price. If demand is so high open other factories to pump out the P2 cards.

    I see it more as a price fixing then anything else but I do understand where you are coming from, I just don’t agree.

    -Lars

  • Rennie Klymyk

    December 9, 2007 at 8:04 pm

    I see your point as well. They are already in production so why not just keep the machinery rolling. 8GB cards are still fetching more than $600.00 on ebay.

    Two 16Gb cards = $1800 so you save $150.00 buying the bigger single 32Gb card.
    Let’s assume this $150.00 difference is for the actual cassette that holds the memory inside and the assembly of the memory inside the card. (you get 2 cards with the same amount of memory using 16GB and only one when buying the 32GB cards.)

    List on 32GB cards is $1650.00 ($150.00 – Physical P2 Card or cassette) ($1500.00 – actual memory)
    List on 16GB cards is $900.00 ($150.00 – Physical P2 Card or cassette) ($1500.00 – actual memory)

    If that is close to how manufacturing costs go, they would still charge $575.00 for 8GB cards and you would pay $2300.00 to get 32GB of memory on four 8GB cards.

    It could be from a manufacturer’s position it is cheaper to offer bigger (fuller) cards for a given amount of storage than to continue filling up the P2 cassette only 1/2 full (16GB) or 1/4 full (8GB) with small amounts of memory. This is not price fixing, it’s economics and it is simply wiser to purchase larger cards until you have enough memory for your needs.

    The digital still camera analogy I used earlier isn’t perfect. Jpeg, tiff, gif etc. compression technologies have stabilized for still image applications whereas new video compression formats are still emerging with innovative technologies.

    Still photographers are able to acquire larger less compressed images on the larger cards while video people are still working on the length of time we can record with out having to stop for offloading. New compression formats and bigger cards are allowing us to shoot in 1080/60i, 1080/30p and other less solid state friendly formats for longer periods of time.

  • Rennie Klymyk

    December 9, 2007 at 8:28 pm

    I see your point as well. (I always buy last year’s best computer) P2 cards are already in production so why not just keep the machinery rolling. 8GB cards are still fetching more than $600.00 on ebay.

    Two 16Gb cards = $1800 so you save $150.00 buying the bigger single 32Gb card.
    Let’s assume this $150.00 difference is for the actual cassette that holds the memory inside and the assembly of the memory inside the card. (you get 2 cards with the same amount of memory using 16GB and only one when buying the 32GB cards.)

    List on 32GB cards is $1650.00 ($150.00 – Physical P2 Card or cassette) ($1500.00 – actual memory)
    List on 16GB cards is $900.00 ($150.00 – Physical P2 Card or cassette) ($750.00 – actual memory)

    If that is close to how manufacturing costs go, they would still charge $575.00 for 8GB cards and you would pay $2300.00 to get 32GB of memory on four 8GB cards.

    It could be from a manufacturer’s position it is cheaper to offer bigger (fuller) cards for a given amount of storage than to continue filling up the P2 cassette only 1/2 full (16GB) or 1/4 full (8GB) with small amounts of memory. This is not price fixing, it’s economics and it is simply wiser to purchase larger cards until you have enough memory for your needs.

    The digital still camera analogy I used earlier isn’t perfect. Jpeg, tiff, gif etc. compression technologies have stabilized for still image applications whereas new video compression formats are still emerging with innovative technologies.

    Still photographers are able to acquire larger less compressed images on the larger cards while video people are still working on the length of time we can record with out having to stop for offloading. New compression formats and bigger cards are allowing us to shoot in 1080/60i, 1080/30p and other less solid state friendly formats for longer periods of time.

  • Lars Wikstrom

    December 10, 2007 at 4:54 am

    I see you point too. I just feel Panny could do a better job by making the cards more flexible in price. Still allow the 4 and 8 gigs and price them the way they should be. $900 to some is nothing and to others it’s a lot.

    Also, can other manufactures make P2 cards or does panny have a monopoly on that? If it is a monopoly that would also help explain why the price is fixed like that. When 64’s come out 16 will be gone.

    I do appreciate the feedback on this, thanks for taking the time!

    -Lars

  • Rennie Klymyk

    December 10, 2007 at 5:07 am

    About 3 weeks ago the cow news droid posted a bulletin that fuji will begin making and selling P2. Also the sony version of P2 is out and seems to be $100.00 cheaper but they don’t have 32GB yet. Between the Sony camp competition and the new fuji P2 cards we should start seeing better prices I hope.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/105/858649

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