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Playback Speed on the HVX200
Posted by D. scott Dobbie on April 23, 2007 at 4:47 amShot some test footage for a short the other day. The director requested 720/60p. When I played it back (it was captured onto P2 cards), he was surprised to see it appear as normal speed. He asked if I could play it back at 30 fps so he could see the slo-mo effect, but I was unable to find any way of doing so. Is there a way to do that directly in the camera?
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Barry Green
April 23, 2007 at 3:51 pmShoot 720/30pN at 60fps if you want to see in-camera slow-mo.
If you shoot 720/60p at 60fps, that’s the “reality” look — like American Idol, the Super Bowl, Dancing With The Stars etc. You have to choose one of the pN modes if you want to play back slow-mo in-camera.
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D. scott Dobbie
April 23, 2007 at 4:40 pmThanks, Barry.
So if I understand you correctly, shooting at a pN mode will automatically adjust the speed of playback. Right?
But for editing purposes, isn’t 60p supposed to be better? IIRC, I’ve read that people have issues with pN in post, in that there’s something extra (what?) they need to be aware of.
The 60p was requested with the intent of ramping several shots – so the end result would be using both normal and slo-mo speeds. Should those be shot at 60pN for the actual project? And is there anything I need to make the editor aware of if he’s using FCP?
-Scott
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Barry Green
April 24, 2007 at 5:45 pm[dgadirector] “shooting at a pN mode will automatically adjust the speed of playback. Right?”
Yes, when you choose a pN mode you’re dictating what the playback frame rate should be (either 24fps or 30fps).
[dgadirector] “The 60p was requested with the intent of ramping several shots – so the end result would be using both normal and slo-mo speeds. Should those be shot at 60pN for the actual project?”
There is no “60pN” mode, so you’d use the normal 720/60P mode for that. But the conversion from 60 to 24 is going to take some effort; you might be better off shooting at 48fps so you can drop every other frame for your normal-speed stuff, and keep every frame for a 2:1 slow-mo effect.
[dgadirector] “And is there anything I need to make the editor aware of if he’s using FCP?”
I’d have to defer to an FCP user to answer that, as I don’t use it and don’t know.
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Mcuseo
May 11, 2007 at 10:00 pmThis might help…
Don’t get the different shooting formats (720p/24p, 720p/24pN, 720p/60p, etc.) confused for the Variable Frame Rates which work best in conjunction with the Native Recording Formats (720p/24pN, 720p/30pN). Using the 720p/24pN format with a 60fps framerate, for example, will yeild incredible slo-mo (more than 2x slower) when edited on a 24fps timeline.
The key is to understand the dif. between Recording Format/Setup (i.e. 720p/24pN) and the Frame Rate, which you change in the “Scene File” menu on the camera and not the “Recording Setup” menu.
Hope that helps. I went through the same confusion….
Mike
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Mcuseo
May 11, 2007 at 10:02 pmThis might help…
Don’t get the different shooting formats (720p/24p, 720p/24pN, 720p/60p, etc.) confused for the Variable Frame Rates which work best in conjunction with the Native Recording Formats (720p/24pN, 720p/30pN). Using the 720p/24pN format with a 60fps framerate, for example, will yeild incredible slo-mo (more than 2x slower) when edited on a 24fps timeline.
The key is to understand the dif. between Recording Format/Setup (i.e. 720p/24pN) and the Frame Rate, which you change in the “Scene File” menu on the camera and not the “Recording Setup” menu.
Hope that helps. I went through the same confusion….
Mike
CuseoMovingMedia
Aspen, CO, U.S.A.
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D. scott Dobbie
May 16, 2007 at 2:48 pmOuch – I DID get it confused. Didn’t know there was a difference. Shot a couple hours of footage at 720/60p and just yesterday learned the editor had to take a day to convert it to 24p.
Shot pickups yesterday and, with the help of Barry Green’s book, know about (but don’t fully understand) the Video Cam/Film Cam difference. Changed into Film Cam and then found the Frame Rate in the Scene File and made the adjustment. Successfully shot 720/24p at 60fps. Actually worked when I played it back.
Thanks,
-Scott
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