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Footage from FS-100 Stutters in FCP
Our FS-100 footage is not coming through to FCP as 24P. Some of it stutters badly, even after being rendered.
We’re shooting in 720/24P to an FS-100 on an HVX200. We are using Final Cut Pro 5.1.1. As indicated in Focus’ import instructions for 24P footage, “Remove Duplicate Frames” is checked upon importing the footage. According to the instructions, it should come through at 23.98 fps, but instead it comes through at 59.94… requiring rendering in any 24P sequence.
Our worst problem is that random shots from the FS-100 stutter badly even after being rendered in the 24P sequence. There’s no apparent rhyme or reason for which clips do this.
Has anyone encountered similar import issues? Any solutions for getting the footage to 23.98? We’re using it in conjunction with other 23.98 footage shot to P2.
Any help would be very much appreciated!
Chris Elley
Electro-Fish Media
Austin, Texas
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10 Replies
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60p cannot be placed on a 24p timeline- for the exact reasons you’re seeing. Make sure the HVX200 is actually set at 24pA not 24pN or 24p.
Noah
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In the HVX200, 24PA is not an option for 720 resolutions, only 1080.
We have been shooting in 720/24P on the camera using Firestore (as indicated by the Firestore instructions). It is supposed to drop the duplicate frames upon import and result in a 23.98 fps clip. It is not doing so.
Our other companion HVX200 cameras are shooting 720/24PN to P2 and work great. The real problem here is that the Firestore is not delivering a 23.98 fps clip following the import with “remove duplicate frames” as indicated on Page 7 of the Focus Enchancements FCP workflow document.
Has anyone experienced this same phenomenon?
Thanks,
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Not sure as I’ve steered clear of these devices due to horror stories. I’d suggest a call to their tech support.
Noah
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The remove duplicate frames checkbox is busted. You need to use the Panasonic frame rate converter and use the one that comes with the FCP 5.1 install disks, it’s in the extras folder. Hopefully this is one of the things they fixed in 5.1.2. Sounds like some pretty sweet P2 upgrades coming out within the month.
Jeremy
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I suspect this is limited only to Firestore as I have zero trouble like this coming from P2.
Noah
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It’s one of the advantages of shooting on p2 and in 24pNative as whatever frame rate you are shooting in, it’ll always be ready for 24pN. You are using the system the way it was designed. We shoot on P2 only as well.
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I have been using the Firestore since March and have had no problems with any “stuttering” footage when using 720p24fps within FCP. I am using the Kona LH card and the footage plays out flawlessly, (whether I use a 720p23.98 or 720p59.97 Easy setup for DVCPROHD!). No rendering is required. The only problem I ever had was the “missing frame” problem with longer continuous clips when importing 720p24 into a FCP timeline (BTW, always check “remove duplicate frames”). There was never a problem with the 1080i clips. This is supposedly fixed in the latest patch. I just shot a long form piece tonight using all 111 gigs of storage at 720p24frames! I’ll let you know soon if the latest patch fixed the 720p24fps import problem!
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Jeremy,
Thank you so much for that critical piece of information. I’ve located the frame rate converter and look forward to giving it a shot as soon as possible. If it works, I can’t tell you how relieved we’ll be.
We have turned to only shooting on the Firestore in an extreme emergency, for a number of reasons that I will be happy to share with the forum at a later date. Right now, I’m under a very tight deadline for the project in question.
Thank you again. I look forward to following up.
Chris
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The DVCPRO HD frame rate converter didn’t really do the trick, because it would not allow me to “remove duplicate frames.” Every time I attempted to use that option, it failed to complete. As such, my only choice was to proceed without removing duplicate frames, resulting in a super slow motion clip with no attached audio. I had to speed up the resulting clip 250%, but it was a total pain to sync up with clips from the other timecode synced (P2 acquiring) camera.
Has anyone had better luck with importing 24P footage into Final Cut Pro with the result of the clip actually identifying itself as 24P?
Thanks
Chris Elley
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Alright, Chris, we are going to get this right.
You shot 720p24 over 60. You put the clips in the root level of your browser. You select a clip and then go to tools > DVCPRO HD frame rate converter. A box of options pops up, then what did you choose?
Jeremy
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