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About the P2 cards
I’m planning to buy the HVX200 real soon, but I’m not sure about the P2 cards. I think they’re too expensive for only 8giga capacity. Do you guys have any news about how long will take until Panasonic releases bigger cards? And what about options to record directly to hard drives, are they reliable/ better than the P2 cards?
I’m not a pro… I’m a DVX100 user who is planning to take a huge step forward and spend all my money in this new camera…
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This is an extremely painful thought, but if you wait ’til April to buy your HVX, you might get closer to a street price and the CinePorter CP-2 might be available by then. Sounds like the Cineporter’s gonna be sweet. Camera sees it as a huge P2 card, it might only record active frames, and you can plug it in directly to your laptop and transfer files (with metadata! Can’t get that through firewire.
Then again, if you’re making money with your camera now and HD is an absolute necessity, buy the camera and P2 now. It’s not a big investment for a business. -
Can the P2 card be skipped altogether, so that you just record to a firestore or the like (whatever portable hard drive technology develops)? Or, do you have to use the P2 card and dump to the hard drive? Is the P2 absolutly necessary?
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Firestore will have a product that does that soon. No need for P2 then.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Will the firestore have benefits like the P2, i.e. instant playback of selected shots/clips and the ability to delete a bad take easily?
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Who knows? The Firestore isn’t ready yet.
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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Thank you all. I think I’ll have to risk buying the P2.
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I had not heard or read anything about the CinePorter p2 hard drive until you mentioned it. What I found extremely interesting is that the larger of the two models of the system talks to the P2 connection not the FireWire connection.
I have thought for some time that that proprietary P2 connection is the most interesting place to hack on the camera. If it is as fast (600mbps) and flexible as Panasonic says it is then its an extremely interesting item for 3rd party playfulness.
It might seem an innocuous little tidbit this P2 connection but in truth it is one of the most significant inventions Panasonic has to offer right now. Hacking that connection might offer interesting features that go beyond what is now available. I am not an engineer but I have noticed that when ever I mention the P2 in place of FireWire I get my head cut off. The chariots have encircled that connection, perhaps a fortress lays just beyond.
Oh the future looks bright for those who love to fiddle with fun new things.
Chris
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I don’t see the significance of p2 connection speed (640Mbps) compared to firewire (400Mbps) or even fw800(Mbps).
Question is how to get affordable flash memory even with 100Mbps speed.I’d also appreciate full 1280x720p50/60 resolution at any speed (40-100Mbps) instead of what dvcprohd now offers (960x720p50/60).
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My point is beyond the memory. Firewire is a relatively old system and was designed as a kind of compromise in order to get it accepted by many consumer and a few pro video equipment makers. It was an open system that was also cheap to make and use.
The Panasonic system is new and is made for and used by one company so they could control all the elements that go into it.
As I mentioned I am not an engineer I can only imagine the possibilities. Here is one, can you talk TO the camera through the P2 port? As you know you can go out and get a chip which changes the performance of your cars engine, for me the possibilities of talking to the camera are ephemeral but can you mess with the internal settings the same way the chip talks to a car engine? Firewire can talk to the camera with transportation control and TC etc.
There are lots of people who like to hack into consumer and pro equipment, this is a new product and a new source of mystery which must be explored.
What else might be there? Its a new day and a new port, what might be…
Chris
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[Blub] “when ever I mention the P2 in place of FireWire I get my head cut off.”
Really? By whom?
This device does look interesting and we wish them all the success in the world.
Best,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems
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