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  • HVX200 & A FireStore Type Product?

    Posted by Russell on June 30, 2005 at 5:51 pm

    I see that DTE & thier FireStore product is going to come out with a portable recorder that will record HDV.

    Is there any companies out there with a similar external drive recorder that is planning to be able to record the data rates of DVCPRO HD?

    Or is this simply wishful thinking?

    Ken Hon replied 20 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Beak

    June 30, 2005 at 10:12 pm

    a couple of threads down I posted info on CitiDISK. It doesn’t go upto DVCpro HD but it does recognize upto HDV.
    Including DV/DVCAM and DVCPRO50.
    No one has responded but the product is brand new. Here is more info.

    https://www.shining.com

    Optimized For Video Professionals

    With its small form-factor, high-capacity and rugged design, CitiDISK HDV is ideally suited for broadcast and video professionals in the field.

    Camera-Controlled HDV/DV/DV50 Recording With Or Without Tape
    Records HDV/DV/DV50 streams from camcorder controlled by camera’s REC button with tape, or by CitiDISK HDV’s REC button without tape. Since HDV cameras are more widespread today and continue growing in popularity, CitiDISK HDV stores the MPEG2 transport stream as a M2T file, as well as DV (DV25) and DVCPro50 (DV50) into the unit for immediate editing capability.

  • Barry Green

    July 1, 2005 at 5:01 pm

    There will be a FireStore for DVCPRO-HD. Focus (firestore developers) are already members of the P2 Partners program.

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    Get the most from your DVX camera. The DVX Book and DVX DVD are now available at https://www.dvxuser.com/articles/dvxbook/ and at Amazon (https://tinyurl.com/54u4a)

  • Derek Antonio serra

    July 3, 2005 at 10:49 am

    Barry, any idea of price and capacity? Without this option the HVX200 is going to be a hard sell for many applications.

    Derek Antonio Serra
    Filmmaker
    http://www.controversifilms.co.za
    http://www.indv.co.za

  • Barry Green

    July 8, 2005 at 5:15 pm

    They have not announced either.

    I think everyone’s assuming an FS-4-style product. I pretty much hope it isn’t. I’d rather see a user-interchangeable hard disk on it, so capacity is whatever you want it to be. I’m hoping it’ll be a reasonably-low-cost controller unit with a slot that accepts off-the-shelf hard disks. Then capacity would be dirt cheap and huge — 300gb would give you five hours of 1080, or almost 8 hours of 720/24p, for under $200.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with the FS-4, and if it is an FS-4 style product that’d be okay too. But I think the most useful thing they could do would be to design it so that it can use 3.5″ off-the-shelf hard disks. That would be the ultimate as far as capacity and price-performance.

    And that’s just FireStore — other solutions may come forth from other vendors as well.

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    Get the most from your DVX camera. The DVX Book and DVX DVD are now available at https://www.dvxuser.com/articles/dvxbook/ and at Amazon (https://tinyurl.com/54u4a)

  • Ken Hon

    July 8, 2005 at 10:47 pm

    That’s a very cool idea Barry, hope someone uses it. By the way, do you have any idea what the power consumption for these (or any hard drives) is like? Do they halve your battery life or are they better than that.

    One last question too, having not had any of the small panasonic products. Are their batteries as good as the Sony Li batteries for the PD-170 etc. The large, hi capacity batteries for those cameras are excellent. Just wondering if there is an equivalent for the Panasonic cameras.

    Thanks,

    Ken

  • Barry Green

    July 9, 2005 at 9:08 am

    None of these type of products draw their power from a prosumer camera’s battery, so it’s hard to say whether that idea’s even relevant. The Firestore, Quickstream, and QuickCapture all have their own battery systems; none of them pull power from the camera.

    The Firestore looks like it draws 7.5 watts, which is about the same power draw as a DVX or FX1, so *if* they made it such that it drew power from the camera, then yeah, you could expect your battery life to be cut in half. But, we don’t know what the HVX’s power draw is going to be either — the JVC HD100, for example, draws about twice as much power as an FX1 or DVX does, so we don’t know yet.

    The Panasonic uses lithium-ion batteries in the same basic sizes as the Sony. The biggest one currently is 5600 milli-amps, which has capacity that’s about halfway between Sony’s NP-F770 and NP-F970. On a DVX, the 5600 battery drives the camera for over five hours. Sony has the ability to read out in #-of-minutes-remaining of battery life; in the DVX you get a sort of bar graph that shows full-3/4-half-1/4. Don’t know if the HVX will improve on that or not.

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    Get the most from your DVX camera. The DVX Book and DVX DVD are now available at https://www.dvxuser.com/articles/dvxbook/ and at Amazon (https://tinyurl.com/54u4a)

  • Ken Hon

    July 9, 2005 at 6:21 pm

    Thanks Barry for the detailed information! We are almost always carrying our stuff for several miles and I wanted to get a handle on the weight penalty imposed by the hard drive. Shouldn’t be too bad. Now I just have to wait patiently for Christmas while the Panasonic and Firestore folks work to get these things ready. It should be a remarkable new year.

    Aloha,

    Ken

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