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  • Toke

    April 11, 2005 at 8:59 am

    Price?
    When RAW recording without on-set gamma and with more than 8bits will be available?

  • Karl Holt

    April 11, 2005 at 11:37 am

    I have never seen images this good from a video camera

    It seems the CCD’s have a really good lattitude – unless they have been very cleverly lit. Even so, I can normally tell HD footage from film – this would have fooled me.

    15,000 euros isnt half bad really…… under

  • Karl Holt

    April 11, 2005 at 11:41 am

    Actually there is are couple of shots that show the highlights blowing out – but still, pretty impressive.

    Just shows what a good lens with a shallow depth of field can do. I suspect the fixed lens on the Panasonic will not be able to create images like this.

    JVC on the other had may well get a good DOF with the detachable lens (but of course lower chroma sampling and MPEG2). pros and cons eh?

  • Bullpup

    April 11, 2005 at 11:27 pm

    DAMN interesting! Lots of questions but I’d like to see how this camera unfolds in the next few months. Great price it really does what they say!

  • Vsv

    April 12, 2005 at 7:27 am

    You can ask questions in this tread: Rai & Markus’ “Drake” HD camera

  • Vsv

    April 15, 2005 at 9:14 am

    Look at project Andromeda (hacked Panasonic AG-DVX100)
    http://www.reel-stream.com/andromeda

    Color precision: 24bit, 30bit, 36bit
    Sampling modes: Full-bandwidth RGB, 4:4:4 YUV, 4:4:2 YUV, 4:2:4 YUV,
    4:2:2 YUV, 4:2:0 YUV, 4:0:2 YUV, 4:1:1 YUV
    Frame size: 1280×720** (16:9 with anamorphic adapter),
    1124×720**(NTSC pixels, full optical frame), 770×492(NTSC pixels),
    720×480(NTSC pixels), others user-defined

  • Toke

    April 15, 2005 at 11:07 am

    Does dvx100 really have 720 lines chips?

  • Vsv

    April 15, 2005 at 12:58 pm

    What said Juan P. Pertierra (author of Andromeda project):

    The CCD’s yield a frame considerably larger than a standard 720P or SD frame(depending what interpreting of the data is done), so the user has a lot of options, it is hard to categorize down what resolutions can be achieved.

    For example, someone who doesn’t have the anamorphic adapter but still wants to get 16:9 or 1.83, can process using pixel shift up to 1540×984, and then letterbox it.

    1540×984 is the original HD resolution whn the CCD scans are decoded taking into cosideration the physical pixel shift. Yes, this is within striking range of 1080P, and if you want to up-res it you should get goodt results. However we do not have any up-res capabilty built into our software at this point, so you’d have to export the frames with sculptor and then up-rez with your favorite software. All the resolution we get in sculptor is using optical details that are captured by the shifted CCD’s, we do not up-res any images.

  • Toke

    April 15, 2005 at 5:39 pm

    From Reel Streams site:
    “Frame size: 1280×720 (16:9 with anamorphic adapter), 1124×720**(NTSC pixels, full optical frame)”

    Does this mean that one ccd in dvx100 has physical pixel count of 1124×720 and this has AR of 4:3?
    Does the camera use pixel shift in both axes (=green pixels are not aligned with other in x- nor y-axis)?

    If so you could easily pull out 1080p from this…

  • Graeme Nattress

    April 15, 2005 at 5:53 pm

    The DVX has 410,000 pixels on it’s CCDs according to Panasonic’s web site. This would give, approximately a 784×522 pixel dimension for the chip. Even with pixelshift magic, that’s going to provide a sharper SD picture, but it’s not going to turn it into HD IMHO.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

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