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720P25?????
Hi, I bought the citidisk and am currently testing the workflow for 720P footage from the HVX200.
I thought I would use Blackmagic’s intensity, which I also just bought, with Final Cut Pro 5.1.4.
But even though there is an option to use Instensity HDTV 720P50 for video playback, there is no Easy setup that’s 720P50 (Apple only gives 720P25, while Blackmagic doesnt supply NEITHER 720P25 NOR 720P50) and in the Audio/Video Settings, I can’t change to an editing timebase of 50: theres only all the NTSC framerates and one single PAL framerate (Blackmagic HDTV 1080i50), theres not even a Blackmagic HDTV 720P25!!! WTF????!!!!!!
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Hi,
Final Cut Pro 5 & 6.0 do not support 720p50. The Intensity drivers and Media Express application do support 720p50.
Displays do not support 720p25 and that’s why we haven’t supported 720p25 in the Intensity drivers as you can’t monitor with it so there is little point. The Panasonic HVX200 works in a Varicam format, ie 720p 25 over 50 fps. This format previously didn’t work with Final Cut Pro 5.1.4 when we tested it with DeckLink and Multibridge hardware. We’ve just noticed that it does seem to work with Final Cut Pro 6 and so I expect we’ll add easy setups for it soon. We’ve got an Intensity update due out in the next couple of days which won’t include an update for this camera but I expect it will in the one after that.
Regards,
Luke Maslen
Blackmagic Design -
Hi,
Given that you need Final Cut Pro to ingest your P2 material and turn it in to a QuickTime file, would you see much need to support 720p25/50 in Media Express? If you don’t have Final Cut Pro, you won’t have any way to get your P2 media in to a QuickTime format for use on your Mac and therefore it couldn’t be used with any QuickTime application including Media Express. Please let me know if you think there is still a new for this support in Media Express given my comments.
Regards,
Luke Maslen
Blackmagic Design -
Hello,
first off, Im glad to see that even though I bought BM’s cheapest card, Im still considered as a customer worthy to spend time on. Thank you for that.OK, now.
1. I mentionned that I bought the Citidisk (after reading horrible stuff about it on hvxuser, I went to my favorite video pro store in Paris, tested it, and found it to work perfectly). It doesnt not capture mxf, but quicktime mov – be it DV, DV50, or DVCProHD.
So I dont use P2, and, to answer your question, I dont need Media Express – for the time being, that is. But good thing to know that there is this software (even though I dont see why I would need it).2. The citidisk, however, doesnt shoot progressive native. Which is a HUGE problem, not only because the hard drive’s capacity is more or less halved ( ie I could shoot twice the amount of footage if it could do progressive native), but mainly because once its in FCP, I HAVE TO RENDER the quicktime thats 720P50 into FCP’s 720P25, or I have to export it and reimport it as 720P25. I have an upcoming shoot with not a lot of editing time, and Id rather spend it editing that exporting and importing… And, yes, I do understand its not a bad thing to force me to do that, since by exporting and reimporting, Im keeping the exact same video file, but Im getting rid of the second progressive frame, and therefore dividing the size of the whole thing by 2.
BUT. I’d rather be able to do that whenever I want, after editing for a few hours, instead of being forced to do that immediately.Now, quoting you:”Final Cut Pro 5 & 6.0 do not support 720p50. The Intensity drivers and Media Express application do support 720p50″.
Im not sure I understand. Does it mean that if I had another application that could edit natively 720P50, I could use the Intensity?
In any case, why is there no Intensity Easy Preset AT ALL for european framerates (I said Pal in my first post, but of course, in HD, there is no PAL)? I have the latest 1.4 that I downloaded off your website.3. Why dont FCP 5 and 6 support 720P50?? Great that *you* do. At least you seem to understand theres more to the world than just NTSC-framerates countries 🙂 / and not, Im not going to bash the US, Im french and I love the US. But come on…
4. What do you mean by “Displays dont support 720P25”? I’m in the process of buying a CRT HDTV, and I always thought that 720P meant 720P25, and not 720P25 over 50?
Thanks.
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