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  • Robert Withers

    September 26, 2017 at 2:57 am

    Does this mean High Sierra won’t work with any of my external spinning disks? That would be a nogo. Or just that the installation needs to be working on an SSD?
    I hate having to buy hardware to work with fashionable software.
    Cheers,
    Robert

    Robert Withers

    Independent/personal/avant-garde cinema, New York City

  • Robert Withers

    September 26, 2017 at 2:59 am

    I am always in the middle of a project. That’s the kind of work I do.

    Robert Withers

    Independent/personal/avant-garde cinema, New York City

  • Oliver Peters

    September 26, 2017 at 11:08 am

    I believe HS will install. It just won’t reformat your drive to APFS.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • John Rofrano

    September 26, 2017 at 1:02 pm

    [Robert Withers] “Does this mean High Sierra won’t work with any of my external spinning disks? That would be a nogo. Or just that the installation needs to be working on an SSD?”

    High Sierra introduces a new filesystem called APFS which is a faster new 64bit file system that is specifically designed to work with SSDs and is already used by iOS. If you have an SSD as your boot drive, it will automatically be upgraded to this new filesystem. If you have an HDD or Fusion drive you will be prompted as to whether or not you want to convert it. This has no negative affects on any previous filesystem drives as they are all still supported. The only scenario that this would affect, is if you “dual boot” from other drives. The older macOS would not be able to read the APFS drive, which is something to consider for people who do this. Other than that, having APFS as your boot drive should have no negative effect. You can still use and format other drives as HPFS just like you always did.

    The best advice from that article is one that I always give: Before any OS upgrade, make a clone of your hard drive with Carbon Copy Cloner to an external drive. If everything does go horribly wrong… boot from the backup, reformat and restore your old OS. No harm done (just time lost).

    The biggest unknown for Musicians, Video Editors, and Graphic Designers is: Do all of my plug-ins work? I would wait a while for manufacturers to confirm that the plug-ins you care about will continue to work on High Sierra.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Oliver Peters

    October 1, 2017 at 6:40 pm
  • Tim Jones

    October 12, 2017 at 9:10 am

    Does this mean High Sierra won’t work with any of my external spinning disks? That would be a nogo. Or just that the installation needs to be working on an SSD?
    I hate having to buy hardware to work with fashionable software.

    Sheesh. I don’t know where people get so much FUD from, let alone why people love Apple bashing without any facts to back it up.

    Of COURSE High Sierra works with spinning disks. Of COURSE APFS works with spinning disks.

    Sheesh.

  • Robert Withers

    January 27, 2018 at 1:57 am

    Don’t know that FUD guy. Just asking a question. Will a High Sierra machine boot from a spinning disk or only from an SSD? In other words, would I need to backup on an SSD to get a bootable backup disk?
    Many thanks.

    Robert Withers

    Independent/personal/avant-garde cinema, New York City

  • John Rofrano

    January 27, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    [Robert Withers] “Will a High Sierra machine boot from a spinning disk or only from an SSD? In other words, would I need to backup on an SSD to get a bootable backup disk?”

    Yes, High Sierra will boot from a spinning disk.

    If you have an SSD it will upgrade it to the new Apple File System. If you have a HDD it will leave it as HPFS and continue to work as Sierra and all previous macOS’s did. Either way it will boot and continue to work.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Jim Brodie

    February 14, 2018 at 11:35 am

    Will you need to run a 3rd party Trim program with your SSD when you load High Sierra or does it come with it built in?
    Thanks!

    Jim

  • John Rofrano

    February 14, 2018 at 1:39 pm

    [jim brodie] “Will you need to run a 3rd party Trim program with your SSD when you load High Sierra or does it come with it built in?”

    It is built-in for all Apple SSD’s and the ones you buy from OWC which are supported by the Trim support that is already part of macOS.

    This article seems to suggest that as of Mac OS X 10.10.4 Yosemite you can enable Trim for 3rd party SSD’s if it’s not already enabled.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/222077/how-to-enable-trim-for-third-party-ssds-on-mac-os-x/

    If that doesn’t work, you can use something like Trim Enabler from Cindori which I have used to provide Trim support for non-Apple drives but if you have an Apple SSD there is nothing more for you to do.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

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