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  • 00:00:00:00 timecode

    Posted by Anneli Engstrom on November 9, 2008 at 10:41 am

    Dear all, I got a message from a support of a company making an mpeg encoder, that it causes problems with a DVD to have an mpeg timecode start at 00:00:00:00. I have never heard of this, and both Compressor and BitVice and many other fine programs start the timecode at 00:00:00:00 (which I happen to like) and I have hade no complaints what so ever on widely distributed DVD:s.

    Has anyone heard of this?

    Johan Nordanfors replied 17 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Noah Kadner

    November 9, 2008 at 6:27 pm

    Sure anything’s possible- just reset the timecode. You didn’t say which encoder you mean. But if they can’t help you, switch encoders.

    Noah

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  • Anneli Engstrom

    November 9, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    Thank you for your reply.

    This encoder has programmed the timecode to always start at 01:00:00:00, and when I complained the support told me that 00:00:00:00 is not allowed for DVD:s. I found this very strange, and wanted to check with other professionals.

    I wasn’t sure about saying what encoder it is due to the forum rules and me complaining about it. I’m new at this forum.

    But this is considered a very good, industry standard encoder.

  • William Busby

    November 10, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    If you told us the name of this encoder, would you have to kill us? 😀

  • Noah Kadner

    November 11, 2008 at 3:50 am

    Yes tell us the name of the encoder- or we cannot help you very much. 🙂

    Noah

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  • Eric Pautsch

    November 11, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    There’s absolutely nothing against the rules saying you can’t complain about a certain tool…if so, I would have been kicked off years ago 🙂 But your not complying anyway since I’m sure there’s a fix

    Which encoder was it?

  • Anneli Engstrom

    November 12, 2008 at 8:49 am

    I’m sorry to have been so unnecessarily mysterious. I’ll get the hang of the Forum rules soon enough. 🙂

    The encoder is Cinema Craft MP, and it is the official support at Omni that tells me that an mpeg file should never start with 00:00:00:00. There definitely is no fix for it, because I uploaded a test file to convince them that CCEMP changed the timecodes to 01:00:00:00, because they did not believe me. And then the new answer was that it does and that 00:00:00:00 timecodes should not be used anyway as it “is very difficult and causes many problems”.

    As I had never heard of this before I wanted to check with other people who make DVD:s, and who may know more than me.

  • Eric Pautsch

    November 13, 2008 at 1:08 am

    Are you using DVDSP? Right click on the timeline and make sure you aren’t seeing “Zero based TC” but “Asset based TC”.

    E

  • Anneli Engstrom

    November 13, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Thank you for your help, but I don’t really understand. My question is:

    “Does 00:00:00:00 timecode really cause problems on a DVD”

    It is only secondary that I am displeased that Cinema Craft MP changes the timecode, and that I think that the support at Omni might be giving me a false answer to protect strange programming. (Now I’ve also checked my demo for Cinema Craft SP, and it has no problems either with 00:00:00:00 timecode. No other encoder I’ve used has).

    But yes, I use DVDSP, and I look at the “General information” of the file from inside the program. And the engineers at Omni have confirmed that their program changes the timecode to 01:00:00:00.

    So, has anyone heard of this? 00:00:00:00 timecode being problematic for DVD’s? I use it all the time, and have had rave reviews on the functionality of my DVD’s.

  • Eric Pautsch

    November 13, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    No that shouldn’t be an issue. I’m surprised if that’s the way the tool works. Can you work around it?

  • Michael Sacci

    November 13, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    A dvd does not care about the TC but an encoder changing TC would cause problems with subtitle import and chapter marker list. I would think this is something should be fixed on the software.

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