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  • 4×3 Doc film close to finishing principal photography, thinking of going 16×9

    Posted by Dima Venkov on February 20, 2009 at 12:20 am

    Hello,

    I’ve been shooting a documentary for over a year now and an important turn of events has just occured, which will most likely bring the story to a close fairly soon. I estimate that the film has been shot about 2/3 way in, perhaps even 3/4.

    I’ve been shooting 4×3 so far and I can’t say I’m thrilled about the format in general and my framing in particular. I looked at a selects reel I made and applied a widescreen filter to it and the framing seemed better, especially because I have the option of adjusting the offset setting of the filter to every shot. So now I can’t decide between these options:

    1) Shoot 16×9 from now on:
    -1a) Switch to squeeze mode
    -1b) Switch to letterbox mode
    -1c) Stay on 4×3 but frame for 16×9 filter to be applied in post
    2) Stay 4×3 and leave the options open for the film to be 4×3 or 16×9. In other words decide in post production.

    What would be your recommendation and what would be the things I should keep in mind if I switch to any of the 16×9 options?

    Also, what are the pros and cons of any of these options as far as postproduction and distribution are concerned? Distribution will be done mostly thru festival circuit and perhaps European television.

    My camera is a PAL dvx100BE and I’m shooting the project in 25p.

    Thanks for your help!

    John Sprung replied 17 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Richard Herd

    February 20, 2009 at 12:53 am

    I pick option 2.

  • Rick Wise

    February 20, 2009 at 1:23 am

    I agree: stay in 4:3 since you’ve shot everything else that way. Then adjust in post.

    What is it about your framing that you don’t like? Putting subjects too much in the middle? Not playing 1/3, “rule-of-thirds”? Too much head room?

    If masking to 16:9 “cures” the framing, I suspect it’s the headroom issue. Just try to keep the same excessive headroom so that “fixing it in post” becomes more standard. Trying to adjust each shot up or down will be a big post burden.

    Rick Wise
    director of photography
    and custom lighting design
    Oakland, CA
    https://www.RickWiseDP.com
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    email: Rick@RickWiseDP.com

  • Dima Venkov

    February 20, 2009 at 9:54 am

    hey thanks for the replies. I usually stick to the rule of thirds but a lot of my “close ups” are actually medium shots with more torso than I would have liked. I’m not sure why it happens that way. So usually, it’s not too much headroom, its too much on the bottom of the frame.

  • John Sprung

    March 6, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    Changing to squeeze or letterbox would result in the rest of the material not matching for resolution with what’s in the can. So, stay with flat 4:3, but bear in mind that you may want to do a tilt-and-scan later to make 16:9.

    — J.S.

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