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  • Mixed Film Gauge Workflow Methods

    Posted by Matthew Schneider on November 17, 2005 at 3:38 pm

    Hi folks,

    More questions with respect to Avid projects using mixed film gauges. This is becoming more and more of the norm here at PostWorks, as our usual load of feature film clients just doing editorial is turning into feature film clients staying at PostWorks to do 2K-based DI finishing. Thus list management is Key – no pun intended – from start to finish.

    Several features here are shooting on 3perf as a 2K DI finish is planned, though also have 4perf footage usually because visual FX are planned (larger palette for creating background plates). Tracking 3perf Keycode and 4perf Keycode is not hard, simply by changing the Keycode heading within ALE to Ink. However when it comes to pulling lists, what are people doing to make this easier? As best as I know, you can only pull Filmscribe lists using one counting method at a time.

    One thing I’ve suggested to film assistants is to color-code the minority clips – i.e. 4perf clips are in the minority, and thus color code them yellow for example – and then when reels are picture locked, push those clips onto V2, leaving the majority clips on V1. When pulling lists in Filmscribe, you simply change the Video track selection and the “Using” setting under Global to reflect these two different methods of couting. That’s what I’ve recommended so far and it seems to work.

    Are there other or better ways to approach this? What else do folks out there tell their clients when it comes to these mixed film guages? Also, will the new versions of Adrenaline that allow for mixed film gauges simplify this process?

    Thanks everyone,
    Matt

    Matthew Schneider replied 20 years, 9 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Michael Phillips

    November 18, 2005 at 12:05 am

    Matt –

    Track the 3 perf in the KN Start and the 4 perf in Ink Number configured as 4 perf in the film/24p settings. This gets easier in Xpress Pro and Adrenaline post 2.0/5.0 versions.

    In FilmScribe, do a pull list as per usual practices, but include both the KN Start and Ink number in the options. You can only have one type of running footage count, but the numbers will be correct for each format. Where the footage is 4 perf, the KN Start will be blank, but there will be values in the Ink Number field and vice versa.

    Michael

  • Matthew Schneider

    November 18, 2005 at 2:47 pm

    Got it, thanks Michael. I misunderstood having a single type of running footage to mean that separate lists had to be created independently. Makes sense now. Thank you!

    Best,
    Matt Schneider
    PostWorks, New York

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