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  • advice on best way to mic a discussion

    Posted by Ruby Gold on February 27, 2007 at 4:32 am

    What would be the best way to mic and record the discussion among a group of technical experts being assembled for discussion related to a research project?

    There will be about 18 people, split into two groups. The host of this discussion doesn’t want to mic people individually and wants the mics to be as inobtrusive as possible. I’m also wondering what would be the best recording device to use in this situation. The content is not for production, but, I’m assuming to transcribe and use as part of data for the research project.

    All help regarding mic types, placement and recording device/media greatly appreciated.

    thanks!

    Ruby Gold replied 19 years, 2 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Dave Stenz

    February 27, 2007 at 12:23 pm

    Good Morning,

    Try using “PZM” (Pressure Zone Microphone) style mics. They can be placed on table tops, affixed to walls, ceilings and other surfaces with very good results.

    There are a variety of PZMs on the market. Obviously, good quality mics help to produce good quality audio (along with other factors of placement, etc)…

    Hope this helps.

    Dave

  • Ty Ford

    February 27, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Well there’s a nightmare waiting to happen!

    The only way you’ll be able to differentiate one voice from another in listening back is to use an automixer.

    Forget invisible. You can’t afford invisible.

    If the two groups are approximately equal in number, 9+9, you can get by with two four channel auto mixers, one for each group, IF each group is sitting around one table. If they are spread out, it’s pretty hopeless. Shure and Audio Technica both sell four channel automixers. The also sell eight channnel auto mixers.

    If you’re really interested in what the people are saying, I’d put an eight channel automixer on each group of nine and set mics on table stands out.
    Record to DAT, HD recorder, a computer, etc. That’s the least of your worries.

    It will be cheaper to hire someone to do this than to buy the gear yourself. You may get lucky with a ocal renatl house.
    Regards,

    Ty Ford

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  • Ray Palmer

    February 28, 2007 at 4:24 pm

    [Ty Ford] “If you’re really interested in what the people are saying, I’d put an eight channel automixer on each group of nine and set mics on table stands out.”

    I agree with Ty. We do this all the time with up to 24 live mics. We use three of the 8 channel Shure automated mic mixers. It works well with our application. It allows us to EQ and set the “Gate” for each mic.

    Tip**
    If you are doing ANY live PA support at the same time, make sure that all the mics are the same make and model. If not, you will be chasing your tail with different “colored” or sounding mics.

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

  • Ruby Gold

    February 28, 2007 at 5:28 pm

    Thanks everybody for the helpful advice.
    Ruby

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