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Looking for Location Audio Training. West Coast
Posted by Ray Palmer on June 16, 2006 at 8:49 pmI am lookng for a training class for Location audio for film and video. I located a terrific week long class in Rockport Maine but it was out of my budget.
Is there a 2-4 day training class on the West Coast? I have been shooting and doing location audio for over 25 years but I need to improve my location sound gathering for dialog.
I guess I need more than just the school of hard knocks to improve my audio.Ray Palmer, Engineer
Salt River Project
Phoenix, AZ
602-236-8224 office
There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.Ty Ford replied 20 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies -
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Ty Ford
June 17, 2006 at 3:51 amWhat is it you need to know?
Ty Ford
Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com
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Ray Palmer
June 19, 2006 at 3:24 pmThanks Ty.
Tips and tricks and best practices. There has got to be a better way than what we have been doing for the past two decades.I am amazed at what great sound Features and even TV series are getting with their audio. It doesn’t appear to be looped and I do not see where they could be body mic’d.
Example
Steady-cam walking backwards ahead of walking actors. There are three actors wide walking in a hallway in a building with dialog. Actors adding to the three and leaving all the time dialog. Nothing is off mic.
It might be as simple as a better shotgun mic or multiple mics on poles.We are using the Sennheiser 816. It is now appearing to be too long for our needs.
Ray Palmer, Engineer
Salt River Project
Phoenix, AZ
602-236-8224 office
There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t. -
Ty Ford
June 20, 2006 at 11:01 pmIf it’s a tv drama/comedy with a set or sets, they have no ceilings (or ceiling bounce), no fourth wall (or fourth wall bounce) and they run multiple booms to isoed tracks. A good mixer usually also does a mix to stereo (or dual mono).
Without the reflections, you can use shotguns.
If you’re working in real interiors, shotguns should be replaced with hypercardioids.
Plant mics help.
Regards,
Ty Ford
Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com
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Ray Palmer
June 21, 2006 at 2:51 pmMost excellent! Thanks Ty.
[Ty Ford] “If you’re working in real interiors, shotguns should be replaced with hypercardioids.”
That sounds like the trick I needed. Any suggested Hypercardioid mic? This would be used on a fishpole for dialog. We, of course, can furnish phantom power.
Ray Palmer, Engineer
Salt River Project
Phoenix, AZ
602-236-8224 office
There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t. -
Ty Ford
June 21, 2006 at 8:42 pmNo problem,
Tops is the Schoeps cmc641
Next Audio technica AT 4053a
Next Okatva or Octave MC 012 with hyper capsuleRegards,
Ty Ford
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Ray Palmer
June 22, 2006 at 3:29 pmTerrific advice!
You are going to make me look good.
Thanks again,
RayRay Palmer, Engineer
Salt River Project
Phoenix, AZ
602-236-8224 office
There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t. -
Ray Palmer
June 27, 2006 at 11:14 pmI just pulled the trigger and purchased the Schoeps cmc641. It should arrive later this week.
Thanks for the guidance.
RayRay Palmer, Engineer
Salt River Project
Phoenix, AZ
602-236-8224 office
There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t. -
Ty Ford
June 28, 2006 at 2:19 amDon’t worry. Be happy. This is a no-brainer.
Regards,
Ty Ford
Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com
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