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  • Looking for Location Audio Training. West Coast

    Posted by Ray Palmer on June 16, 2006 at 8:49 pm

    I am lookng for a training class for Location audio for film and video. I located a terrific week long class in Rockport Maine but it was out of my budget.
    Is there a 2-4 day training class on the West Coast? I have been shooting and doing location audio for over 25 years but I need to improve my location sound gathering for dialog.
    I guess I need more than just the school of hard knocks to improve my audio.

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

    Ty Ford replied 20 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Ty Ford

    June 17, 2006 at 3:51 am

    What is it you need to know?

    Ty Ford

    Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com

  • Ray Palmer

    June 19, 2006 at 3:24 pm

    Thanks Ty.
    Tips and tricks and best practices. There has got to be a better way than what we have been doing for the past two decades.

    I am amazed at what great sound Features and even TV series are getting with their audio. It doesn’t appear to be looped and I do not see where they could be body mic’d.
    Example
    Steady-cam walking backwards ahead of walking actors. There are three actors wide walking in a hallway in a building with dialog. Actors adding to the three and leaving all the time dialog. Nothing is off mic.
    It might be as simple as a better shotgun mic or multiple mics on poles.

    We are using the Sennheiser 816. It is now appearing to be too long for our needs.

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

  • Ty Ford

    June 20, 2006 at 11:01 pm

    If it’s a tv drama/comedy with a set or sets, they have no ceilings (or ceiling bounce), no fourth wall (or fourth wall bounce) and they run multiple booms to isoed tracks. A good mixer usually also does a mix to stereo (or dual mono).

    Without the reflections, you can use shotguns.

    If you’re working in real interiors, shotguns should be replaced with hypercardioids.

    Plant mics help.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford

    Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com

  • Ray Palmer

    June 21, 2006 at 2:51 pm

    Most excellent! Thanks Ty.

    [Ty Ford] “If you’re working in real interiors, shotguns should be replaced with hypercardioids.”

    That sounds like the trick I needed. Any suggested Hypercardioid mic? This would be used on a fishpole for dialog. We, of course, can furnish phantom power.

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

  • Ty Ford

    June 21, 2006 at 8:42 pm

    No problem,

    Tops is the Schoeps cmc641
    Next Audio technica AT 4053a
    Next Okatva or Octave MC 012 with hyper capsule

    Regards,

    Ty Ford

  • Ray Palmer

    June 22, 2006 at 3:29 pm

    Terrific advice!
    You are going to make me look good.
    Thanks again,
    Ray

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

  • Ray Palmer

    June 27, 2006 at 11:14 pm

    I just pulled the trigger and purchased the Schoeps cmc641. It should arrive later this week.

    Thanks for the guidance.
    Ray

    Ray Palmer, Engineer
    Salt River Project
    Phoenix, AZ
    602-236-8224 office
    There are three types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can’t.

  • Ty Ford

    June 28, 2006 at 2:19 am

    Don’t worry. Be happy. This is a no-brainer.

    Regards,

    Ty Ford

    Ty Ford’s “Audio Bootcamp Field Guide” was written for video people who want better audio. Find out more at https://www.tyford.com

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