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When Vegas will become stable if ever?
Posted by Izzy Laif on November 26, 2019 at 10:39 amI started using Vegas about 10 years ago with version 6. Now I’m on version 17.
Through the years, I had about 9 different PCs, which went from Win7 through WIn8, Win8.1 and currently, Win10. I had both Intel and AMD CPUs combined with both ATI and NVidia GPUs.
While my hardware evolves, one thing is constant – Vegas keeps crashing no matter what. It will hang during editing process (circle waiting cursor, then Vegas have stopped). It will abruptly stop during rendering, doing nothing. It will add bogus transition artifacts.
My PCs is very spartan – I don’t use installed programs (I prefer portable apps) and don’t install any codec packs, or any codecs at all. I always use all OS patches and fresh drivers, as well as BIOS updates. So nothing to clutter the registry or interfere with Vegas in any way.The question is – does this happen to everyone and you just silently conform?
The bigger question is, if eleven versions and ownership change was not enough to make the product stable, will it ever be?Izzy Laif replied 6 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies -
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Francois Pénzes
November 26, 2019 at 4:58 pmHi Izzy
I can only speak for myself but being a Vegas user since Version 3, I would say that 99% of the problems I had were mostly due to weird, odd or bad original video files. Most of those were from either screen recording software, phones with non standard frame rates, etc.
Now, I’m not saying that Vegas is perfect. No software is. I come from a broadcasting background and we were using Avid. It to had glitches. I have friends that use most of the other popular editing software and they also experience the odd problem on occasion.
That’s my take on it. My advice is to try as much as possible to start your project with a proper video, audio, picture file and it should be smooth sailing for you.
Cheers !
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Steve Rhoden
November 26, 2019 at 5:39 pmNo Izzy, it does not happen to everyone!
And a lot of the problems you just described are issues that rarely happens to me
with Vegas Pro. Currently using Vegas Pro 17 (latest build 353), with not much issues
or crashes whatsoever….. And a Vegas user from (Sony Vegas 5)What’s my secret?
Staying far from most things GPU based!
Not using over the top video cards, that claims its more powerful than God.
Not updating to the latest and greatest video drivers that comes out every week.
Not using an overly powerful computer system or laptop… (basic build and basic spec for me)
That’s it in a nutshell!Am always in editing heaven using Vegas! This is what always works for me, and i do heavy
Broadcast work daily and for all other mediums…. Have mentioned this here on this forum and others for many many years now, but always seems to go unheard or some don’t understand
what is it that i use to edit with then or how do i edit without investing in a good GPU card etc.It’s what works for me…….
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Charles Smiley
November 27, 2019 at 2:11 amUsually my Vegas 16 crashes are only when clicking on the external monitor button at various times.
Vegas 16 is better than Vegas 13 about crashing or just simply not working with my Black Magic Design video adapter.
I try to “save” frequently. I’ve noticed that when things get really slow to launch, I start re-clicking — and that’s when the whole thing crashes. As if they don’t protect from improper double-launching things with poor protection.
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Charles Smiley
November 27, 2019 at 2:21 amSteve. I agree about the GPU avoidance.
Before I got Vegas, I used Premiere Pro. When I time-tested actual video rendering, using the style I actually use, I noticed almost no difference engaging my 800 Dollar GPU graphic card. I did notice more hang ups (white screen). I wish I had the 800 Bucks back. ☺
Anyhow I’m happy with Vegas 16. Somethings Vegas effects seem oddly operated compared to PPro — but I’ll eventually get over the differences. Overall it’s better for the material I use now.
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Scott Francis
November 27, 2019 at 5:52 pmWOW!!! I was a Vegas user from version 4 through 15, and then I left. I use Premiere Pro now, and while it is not all rainbows and unicorns, I have spent FAR less time with crashes than I ever did with Vegas. I use it daily at work and also for my own A/V business. I still keep Vegas 15 around for old projects and a here and there edit, but PP is my daily driver. I run a 12 Core I9 and an NVIDIA 1080 GPU with NVME SSD’s and standard SSD’s as well.
Recently, I edited a 10 camera mulitcam shoot, with audio, and a TON of color correction, over an hour and a half show and it NEVER CRASHED ONCE!!! I had to use proxies when doing the multicam part, but after that, I could edit in 100% full quality at all times.
While I hate PP’s audio, and LOVED my Vegas for many years, and wish I could still use it, I am not going back.Xavier (Scott) Francis
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Izzy Laif
November 27, 2019 at 7:53 pmWell, I don’t even try to use GPU-acceleration during editing, as I assume it would never work in any software.
However there is a noticeable difference when using MAGIX AVC codec with GPU-acceleration on rendering. You save about 20-30% of time.
There are moments wen Vegas will just stumble upon something on the timeline and hang with clock ticking during render.
I don’t use odd file formats on the timeline, moreover, it’s mostly png/jpg (I do educational videos).I would have switched to Resolve long time ago, especially after they fixed the alpha-channel, but unfortunately they don’t support anything over FHD in the free version, and I’m not really ready to invest in yet another video editor at this point.
Also, there is a learning curve and you have to forget most of your muscle memory skills used in Vegas. Not that it is too convenient anyway, as motion tracking, masking and overlapping in Vegas is a nightmare, especially if the fragments are all different DPI.
And I’m yet to see a video editor, that allows you to loop fragments just by pulling on the side of the event, like Vegas does. In Resolve and Premiere, you can only drag the event until it ends. -
Izzy Laif
December 6, 2019 at 12:13 pmAnother classic issue that drives me mad is that some of those video files that are perfectly visible in the preview box, may be COMPLETELY missing from the end render! If you have those fragments overlaid, the overlay is just blank.
The files are h364 mp4’s, nothing special.
It’s really nice to see that after an hour of render, the result is completely useless.
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