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  • [Vegas Pro 13] Different format/template within the same project

    Posted by Rosario Andò on November 15, 2019 at 7:57 pm

    Good evening to all,
    It’s been a long time since I’ve connected to the forum. I come back here for a question I can’t find a solution to.
    I’m creating a Sony Vegas 13 project that includes 4 video clips
    A-X-B-Y
    A and B are in the 4: 3 format, while X and Y are in the 16: 9 format and 1920x1080p resolution.

    The project is set up with 490×360 resolution (A and B are films from the 60s, therefore very low resolution).

    When I press Play everything’s fine for A, but when X comes, the clip in 16: 9, you see the annoying black bars above and below. Is it possible to have a project with two different templates, i.e. 4: 3 and 16: 9 within the same project, or is the template fixed?
    I tried the pan/crop option on 16: 9 clips, but obviously a part of the video is cut off and the black bars remain.

    Thanks

    Russ Froze replied 6 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Francois Pénzes

    November 15, 2019 at 10:25 pm

    Hi Rosario

    You will have to choose between one of the sizes. I assume that the majority of your footage is in 16:9 ? Then set your project to that. Your viewers will understand that older footage doesn’t have the same look.

    When using 4:3 size video, here’s one way to make the footage look less aggressive to the eye.

    Use two tracks of the same footage. Use Track Motion to enlarge your bottom track in order to cover all of the black and then apply a Gaussian Blur to your liking. By using the same picture, you get to keep the same colour pallet thus making your ”cheat” less conspicuous.

    Cheers !

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  • Russ Froze

    November 19, 2019 at 4:22 am

    OK. the aspect ratio thing is a problem indeed. But not in the way that one might think. The problem is not with the film, the problem lies within the viewer. One must understand that the aspect ratio was chosen by the Producer, Director and Director of Photography. These forces battled it out between cost and esthetics and at the end if the day the Director shot the film specifically for the chosen format. Deciding to alter the aspect ratio is much akin to adding seasoning to a carefully prepared meal in a restaurant. The aspect ratio issue is not a new one. Television a native 4:3 at birth fought to bring Theater shows onto the small scree. Pan and scan works well enough for cramming wide screen in 4:3 but forcing a 4:3 into 16:9 strangely enough has the same detrimental impact on the resulting image. Thankfully A.I. has come along and will uprez the standard you 720 x 480 sd footage to 1440 x 1080 very easily while increasing sharpness and detail. You may have to add some motion blur after. If you uprez to 2880 then you can fill the 16:9 screen and scan and pan the 4:3 aspect ratio in the 16:9 window. It is a lot of trouble and something I use to breathe life into my collection of rare SD stock footage.
    RF

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