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  • help with capture and render settings

    Posted by Heather Walters on October 13, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    Here’s a total newbie question for you: I have projects for work where I must shoot and edit for digital signs that are 1920×1080 TVs, and it uses software to push the videos from the internet (not a DVD or Blu-Ray player). I want my videos to look film-like but as I have to do some panning, 24p tends to be too blurry. What should I shoot in, and do my render settings have to match my capture settings? I am lucky enough to be using a Sony PMW EX3 and Vegas Pro for editing so all choices are available to me. I have been shooting 1920×1080 24p and rendering at 1920×1080 24p wmv’s for a few months now. The software hangs and jitters on transitions (it’s kinda crappy software). Any suggestions on how I can switch things up?

    Mike Kujbida replied 16 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Heather Walters

    October 14, 2009 at 4:47 pm

    I should clarify that it’s not Vegas that is having problems handling transitions, it’s the broadsign software we use to push the video onto our HDTVs.

  • Mike Kujbida

    October 14, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    Heather, I did a search on Broadsign and found that the player says it supports H.264, XviD, DivX, MP4, MP3, AVI and AAC formats.
    No mention of WMV though so my suggestion is to try one of these formats and see how they work.

  • Heather Walters

    October 14, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    Thank you! Never crossed my mind to do that (goes to show you how much I have to learn). I was curious about my capture and rendering settings, though. Can I achieve a film-like look with 60i with my composition and lighting? And what happens if my render settings don’t match with my capture settings? Will I get that horrible mousetoothing/line jitter? Or am I asking the question in the wrong forum altogether?

  • Mike Kujbida

    October 14, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    “Can I achieve a film-like look with 60i with my composition and lighting?”

    IMHO, yes you can.
    A large part of what makes a film “look” like a film is the attention paid to lighting and camera movement.
    Take the time to light it like a “film” and it’ll look like a “film”.
    Too much video looks very flat because the videographer didn’t take the time to light it properly.
    I don’t have a camera that is 24p capable yet I’ve had a DP compliment me on some of my footage saying than it was very film-like simply because I took the time (a rare happening for me!!) to light the set and talent to suit the mood I was after.

    One mistake a lot of video folks make when shooting 24p is that you do have to be very careful when doing pans.
    Study movies carefully and you’ll notice that most camera moves are towards or away from the action and that most pans are very slow.

    “And what happens if my render settings don’t match with my capture settings? Will I get that horrible mousetoothing/line jitter?”

    I’ve always believed that if you shoot 24p, render in 24p and if you shoot 60i, render in 60i.
    This avoids the issues you mentioned.
    Not to say that there aren’t workarounds for them but why create problems when you don’t have to 🙂

    Or am I asking the question in the wrong forum altogether?”

    Try the other Vegas forum here on the Cow as I think there are a few EX3 users on there.

    Good luck with the project as it sounds like fun.

  • Heather Walters

    October 15, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Thank you! I will do some experimenting with 60i!

  • Mike Kujbida

    October 15, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Heather, good luck with your experimenting and don’t forget to holler if you have any more questions.
    Don’t forget that, in addition to the excellent Cinematography forum here, the Cow also has a Sony EX series forum for even more help.

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