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What is the porpose of Trimmer Window?
Hello, sorry if my question is not consistent, but what the purpose of the Trimmer Window since the events can be trimmed directly in the timeline?
Perhaps it is in vegas since before is possible trim events directly in the timeline.
Does anyone uses the Trimmer window or is it obsolete??Márcio Nascimento
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Perhaps it is in vegas since before is possible trim events directly in the timeline.
You’re probably right, but quite frankly, I don’t know. I’ve never used the trimmer for basic cuts editing, always the timeline. It is useful in that you can double-click on a file (have to set this in preferences) in explorer and it will open in trimmer allowing you to see exactly what’s in the file without dragging it to the timeline. Oftentimes a file name or even a thumbnail is insufficient. There is another useful feature in that you can add a marker or region in the trimmer and it will “stay” with that media file, unlike markers on the timeline which can easily change positions unless auto-ripple is enabled which I feel is pretty risky. For me at least, I don’t use it very much, but I’m sure others will have differing opinions.
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[Wayne Waag] “For me at least, I don’t use it very much, but I’m sure others will have differing opinions.”
Yes, yes I do. The Mighty Trimmer is my first port of call to quickly assemble my draft sequences away from the growing T/L. I drag from Media Manager directly into Trimmer; drag across the footage until I get what I want and then shoot that up to the cursor position on the T/L. I treat the Magnificent Trimmer as my “video-palette”. My approach is to get as much of a fluid editing first-call draft from my work as much and as similar to what my viewer’s experience would be. Working fast and fluid is what I’ve learnt to do. The Trimmer is perfect for my approach.
Oh yeah, I like the Trimmer!
Grazie
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I think the trimmer window is obsolete. The story I’ve heard is it was included for the benefit of people coming from a prior generation of editing who learned to edit on tape machines. It is not needed in an NLE editor. I use it only for a quick check of what is on a clip, and as a second viewer for media that I am working with. I do all my “trimming” directly on the time line which, IMHO, is better suited for that task.
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You are all mistaken here Gentlemen. The Trimmer is a very essential part of
an extensive editing workflow… It is not obsolete!… It is not a non essential feature!
I have not the time to go into specific details why this is so. But when you
have a broadcast or network project working on that’s over an hour etc, with
multiple, i mean multiple tracks of complex edits and compositions while sorting thru
hundreds of video clips to see which one to choose that suits
the edit, Then you realize the The Trimmer is your savior!Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
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I think the Trimmer has use. For people with lots of longer media that you want to pick out multiple pieces from the media. For GoPro people we end up with lots of very long media and lots of short good bits within that media.
In the trimmer you can move along through the media looking for your pieces and the trimmer remembers its position as you send events to the timeline. Dragging a long piece of media to the timeline for each event you want one is in effect starting from scratch. Also one may not know at the start how many good bits there are in the media you are trimming from, so dragging the media multiple times is kinda a non starter there.
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To each his own. I can see people that need to sort through many files, trim “once” as needed before putting it on the time line. I personally don’t use it and do all my trimming on the timeline. There may be several sections of a clip I want to use, so I just split the in and out points for each section and remove the unwanted parts. By default Vegas only shows first, middle and last frames on the timeline. I switched it to all under preferences, video tab. I also make the video track taller and zoom in so it’s very easy to see what parts are where. You can still drag the edges to get back what you cut out if needed. The trimmer doesn’t do that. I don’t believe the trimmer can trim more than once either and you have to play the clip to find where you want to trim to, and with long clips, that can be very time consuming. Besides, I prefer to use the dock space for other more important things.
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Sorry, but I could not disagree more.
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You have to watch the video to find the parts you want. The only difference between the timeline and the trimmer is that editing on the timeline is faster. You split in the middle of the unwanted section after creating markers, drag the two ends back to the markers, and drag the remaining video back to the end of the approved section. On top of that, if you ever change your mind about where the “cut” should be, all of the video is still available. If the “trimmer” trims it, you have only a second or two beyond the start and end point to recover a lost section.
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Actually, Chaps, I do use both. I use the Tool that gets me what I want, when I want it. Truly, this ain’t no biggie. I did not grow up in the Video Edit World, but I have been working in the arts all my life. The one thing that that has taught me is to understand and select the tool that gets me to my expression as fast OR slowly ( sometimes I need time to reflect) as is required.
Unless learning to explore the value of NLE ( here read ANYTHING by Walter Murch) just get out there and film and edit. You’ll get to the tools you want. Now, back to my local government Infomercial. Nope, need to finish off my ceramic kiln repair. Nope, need to write down some glaze Triaxial calculations. Nope, just need to ……. Get the picture?
Loves yah all!
Grazie
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Steve Rhoden (Cow Leader)
Film Maker & VFX Artist.
Owner of Filmex Creative Media.
Samples of my Work and Company can be seen here:
https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
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