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4K Editing?
Hi, I am really excited about the 4K camcorders to say the least. My concern is about workflow in VegasI I normally burn to DVD, but I haven’t seen anyone’s workflow and/or results with burning to DVD using the 4K XAVC S format. I would like to know what workflow is being used to achieve great results with these camcorders. In addition, what is needed for editing XAVC S in terms of a workstation? I’d like to add that I’m currently using Vegas Pro 9.0, I do realize that I would need to step up to Vegas 13 for starters. Thanks in advance for all your help. Ray
My computers specs;
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Motherboard: Intel DX48BT2
CPU: Intel Core 2 Extreme processor QX9650 3GHz 1333MHz 12MB
Hard Drive 1: (C Drive) 1TB Samsung HD103UJ SATA2 7200rpm 32MB
Hard Drive 2: (2x750GB Raid 0) Samsung HD753LJ 750GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB
Hard Drive 3: (2x750GB Raid 0) Samsung HD753LJ 750GB SATA2 7200rpm 32MB
Graphics Card: PNY Quadro FX3700 512MB GDDR3 Workstation PCI Express 2.0×16, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, Stereo, Dual VGA Support -
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If I were building a new workstation that would be used for 4K editing, I wouldn’t put anything less than Intel Xeon (Ivy Bridge) processors in it, plus a socket LGA 2011 motherboard that has PLENTY of SATA III controllers on it, like this Asus mobo:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132053You have the RAID 0 already, and hopefully the drives are SATA III and not SATA II, although SATA II is probably good enough for XAVC-S.
Dave
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Hi, Just came across this awesome article to share with all;
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/getting_on_board_with_the_4K_revolution
This really explains a lot in regards to workflow with 4K. Now, is my computer able to handle it? I really like the fact that Vegas Pro 12 has a new proxy feature as explained in the article, so hopefully my current workstation can handle everything. Now the big question “if possible” is how to get close to 4K clarity to DVD? Please chime in your thoughts and suggestions. Thanks, Ray -
Thanks for the great info…… My drives are SATA ll unfortunately. In your opinion, what would it take to upgrade my workstation using some of the components I already have or are they simply not that great for editing with 4K? Any workstation suggestions that won’t rob the bank? Thanks again, Ray
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Hi Ray,
You need to get the fastest cpu you can afford. If not the Xeon-I would recommend an i7. (but you can also use the highest end multicore AMDs.) Your current setup may not be fast enough for 4K work, and you need Vegas 12-13 to handle some of the newer camera codecs. I have edited some 4K in Vegas 12 on a first generation i7 and it really taxes the whole system.Colin Mendez Morris
ArsMusica
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Wow….. That’s not the news I was hoping for. Although, I did figure that it would take quite a workstation to perform the task. I may have to hold off for the 4K revolution. Thanks for your input, Ray
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At the bare minimum i’d install an Intel i7 IvyBridge CPU (and Z79 chipset motherboard) and 32gb RAM. You should still be able to use your SATA II drives, and you already have a fine video card. This will at least save you at least $650 over a Xeon/new mobo combination.
Dave
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Hi Dave, Thanks for the great info….. Surely something to think about. Thanks again, Ray
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I noticed that I didn’t list my 8gb RAM in my specs. This by the way is maxed out on my mother board. Ray
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[Ray Sherman] “I noticed that I didn’t list my 8gb RAM in my specs. This by the way is maxed out on my mother board. Ray”
I don’t think you realize what you are getting yourself into. You might want to start with the specs on Sony’s web site. They specifically state:
4K Requirements:
- 8-core Processor
- 16GB Memory
- RAID storage
That means you probably need 12 cores and 24GB of memory because we all know that the published specs from Sony are usually “laughable” bare minimums. Keep in mind that 8 cores mean 8 “physical” cores not a “Quad Core with Hyperthreading” which means you need to move up to the Intel Xeon line which currently retails at around $2,000 just for the 8-core CPU. The 12-core Xeon is closer to $3,000 for the CPU alone. Even if you go with a dual Xeon CPU motherboard the two CPU’s will be close to that much money as well.
You are also going to need a fairly powerful GPU. You’re probably looking at $3,000 – $4,000 to build yourself a 8-core workstation and $4,000 – $5,000 to build yourself a 12-core workstation for 4K. A workstation for 4K will not be cheap even if you build it yourself.
Don’t forget, with 4K you are talking about processing 4 times the resolution of HD. If your computer is barely processing the 2,073,600 pixels of 1920×1080, think of how it will struggle with the 8,847,360 pixels of 4096 × 2160!
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
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Hi John, Thanks as always for the great info…… I pretty much figured that a new system was in order if I went in the 4K direction. I certainly wouldn’t want to go with the bare minimum for a workstation. My current workstation struggles enough with 1080p. As you suggested, a 12-core with at least 24GB memory would be the ticket, but at a price. I would definitely go with Blu-ray for the better quality. Thanks for the giving me the insight in what to expect for a build. I sincerely appreciate it, Ray
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