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  • A Vegas video that REFUSES to stop? Yep, that’s where I’m at now.

    Posted by Bob Woods on February 11, 2014 at 7:49 am

    I need a solution here while I’m trying to pay someone back for huge favors. My standard definition camcorder went kaput; my new HD camera is . The updates to my studio PC, because Vegas 6 doesn’t dance with HD, was a new video card, Vegas Pro 12, and a mind-numbing attempt to get Windows 8.1 to work (Microsoft kept swearing it would work fine, it cost me DAYS of my life proving otherwise).

    Research led me to the 90-day free trial of Windows 7 64 bit Enterprise version. Besides NUMEROUS installations of between 40 and 81 upgrades batched together, and ads for huge and surely expensive file servers, I’ve almost reached nirvana (software & hardware are happily together now).

    I pull a bit of the HD footage into Vegas Pro 12, and can edit it in a wonderfully fast and smooth process. I took some still photos of my benefactor’s location, and inserted one as the opening of the 1st video I’m creating for her. Problem: during playback, Vegas DOES NOT stop when the video ends at 33 seconds and four frames. When I first rendered an AVI file of the work (without knowing this yet), I got a 20 GB file that continues running forever before quitting with an error message.

    I’ve removed the still photo, still no luck. Converting the HD file to MPEG4 also failed to make any difference. HELP – THANKS!

    Bob Woods replied 12 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 14 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    February 11, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    Check to make sure that you don’t have a picture somewhere way to the right on your timeline. There must be some media out there for Vegas to keep rendering. Zoom all the way out to see. Check your Project Media for any media that is in use that you don’t think you have on the timeline. If you can’t figure it out, make a timeline selection over the video you do want and render the timeline selection only. If you want, post the project file here and have one of us take a look at it.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Steve Rhoden

    February 11, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    Check to make sure that you don’t have a picture somewhere way to the right on your timeline.

    As John said… This i can bet is the case in your situation.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • Mike Kujbida

    February 11, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    To follow up on John’s suggestion, hit the FFWD button to go to the end of the timeline. If it goes past further than you expected, there’s your problem. It’s happened to all of us at one time or another so don’t worry about it. Just fix it and continue on 🙂

  • Bob Woods

    February 11, 2014 at 10:31 pm

    Thanks for responding guys, my wild ride continues. Not aware that the Vegas Media Manager situation has also changed radically, I just downloaded and installed it. Learning the new rules of using it, that will take more time.

    For now, I only have one file open with Vegas, per ‘ALL MEDIA’ and I have checked the other bins, there is NOTHING ELSE! I went back to my source file, which was named by the camera as 01-10-2014_132532.m2ts. This version has no still photos or edits, yet Vegas still does not stop at the END of the footage.

    Is there some kind of “end of file” feature in Vegas Pro 12 that I can use, to get through what I’m hoping is the final hurdle to jump in my conversion to current-world reality?

    Thanks again.

  • Bob Woods

    February 11, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    I’m beginning to fear this is an operating system problem, but I won’t, of course, get to know that until I install the non-Enterprise version of 64 bit Windows 7. BTW, that was ‘end of file’ that I stupidly put double quotation marks around in my last post, doh!

  • John Rofrano

    February 11, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    There is no way to designate the end of a project. It ends when the events on the timeline end.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Bob Woods

    February 12, 2014 at 8:45 am

    THANK YOU everybody, it turns out I’m a forgetful idiot and indeed, the problem with the timeline was of MY MAKING. At one point I did recall the Veg file change I had made, and how it could have caused my problem, but I failed to undo the change BEFORE posting here.

    I also didn’t check for an option to turn off the stereo mic on my new camera. The footage may one day have narration added, but for now there won’t even be captioning. While there will be a brief text intro to the different video sections to view, it will all most likely remain ‘silent movies’ forever.

    To reduce file size and hasten rendering, I had deleted the audio tracks from a couple Veg files and forgotten to start anew, then AGAIN edit the footage with audio tracks. I am humiliated but extraordinarily grateful to the forum respondents and readers; here’s hoping I can ask a two-part question before washing all this egg off my face.

    When I have my Veg files completed, what would be the optimal rendering choice to make? My audience doesn’t even want audio; they will be posting their chosen output to provide online views of their amazing interior and exterior facility. They will probably want a total of six to 10 short videos, so I’m wondering what format will (1) have the smallest file size, while (2) be the best choice for online viewers in numerous, disparate locations. Quite a contrast there; is such a combination possible?

    Gracias!

  • Steve Rhoden

    February 12, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    The Quicktime Photo-jpeg format is what i would recommend, it plays
    well for anyone, great quality and decent file size.

    Steve Rhoden
    (Cow Leader)
    Film Editor & Compositor.
    Filmex Creative Media.
    https://www.facebook.com/FilmexCreativeMedia
    1-876-461-9019

  • John Rofrano

    February 13, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    [Steve Rhoden] “The Quicktime Photo-jpeg format is what i would recommend, it plays well for anyone, great quality and decent file size.”

    I would have to respectfully disagree. Windows users will not have QuickTime by default and will have to download it and install it. Also, unfortunately, there are some Windows users who are “Apple-phobic” and refuse to install anything “Apple related” on their computer. QuickTime is NOT a good choice for general distribution because of this.

    I would use MainConcept AVC and start with one of the Internet … templates and reduce the bit rate to make the file as small as you want while still maintaining quality. MainConcept AVC produces AVC/H.264 MP4 files that can be watched on any modern device running Windows, Mac OS X, iOS, Android, or Linux (which is pretty much everyone).

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Bob Woods

    February 14, 2014 at 9:41 am

    I’m stuck, still, here’s what’s happening. When I load my video footage and DON’T delete the (stereo) audio track, the playback rolls a number of frames in black past the end but then STOPS beautifully.

    As soon as I make any edits – equally of course to both tracks – I get the problem with the playback in black going on for a long time, though less long that it was before. I have deleted everything in Media Manager except for the source / m2ts file that I mentioned previously and the now-three listed veg files, one of which is the current file, THE OTHER TWO were edit versions. If I attempt to delete the veg files that are NOT this one, I continuously receive a Fatal Exception era, Vegas crashes, and I recover the file successfully. Ironically, if I’d had my SD camcorder replacement parts installed for $85, I’d still be back in Vegas 6 flying though this project. Granted I’d wonder about what I was missing, but I’d not be caught where I am.

    I deleted all segments of my edited footage from the timeline, can’t find any hidden portion anywhere. Panasonic supplied ‘editing software’ with my camera; I hate the idea of having to learn that and live with it.

    Meantime, I downloaded the QuickTime codec, that’s waiting with five options anytime I chose to use it. Much appreciated, as is the tip on trying the Avid version, which I hope to try one day WHEN I get past this problem.

    THANK YOU all once again, got my fingers crossed on this.

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