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Music on YouTube – Copywrite issues?
This is a general question to the Sony Vegas Pro world!
I see/hear so much copy-written music on YouTube these days. How is this done by the uploaders? I thought that this wasn’t allowed? I’ve heard of altering the music to get around the music identification software, but surely not everyone uploading video containing music has the capabilities to do this. Has something changed on YouTube that now allows copy-written music?
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Dave P.Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.
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The music is licensed to play on YouTube by the overseeing licensing companies (of which there are several and there are issues like Germany has its own separate licensing.) How this happens is that if you use a licensed song you can no longer monetize the video yourself it more or less becomes YouTube property with regards to advertising etc (although they can’t claim rights to the rest of the video content you can’t either with respect to YouTube.) YouTube actually pays the license fee every time a licensed song is played (.001 of a cent or something like that currently.) So the moral of the story here is if you are creating content that is designed for monetizing in some way you have to obtain the normal licensing of all of the third party material you include otherwise the video is not yours to do with as you will.
The proliferation of YouTube music is because the people uploading the videos have no interest (and no way) to claim what they are uploading as theirs and they don’t care. YouTube and the music license groups are fine with the free advertising. -
I viewed a video recently that was a session recorded for one of the recent English BVE exhibitions. This topic came up. Essentially YouTube view themselves as a technology/service provider. They don’t do editorial work. When you post a video you have to make a claim that you own the copyright to all the content. Content owners have the right to ask for their content to be taken down.
Content/Copyright owners could make a claim against you; I believe fraud (a false declaration that you own copyright)is a crime.
Having said that there obviously is a lot of copyright material on YouTube, I don’t know if that will help.I attended a viewing recently where a couple showed their winning video of a man that sings Elvis songs in public. The copyright owners for Elvis want in excess of $100 per view. For a popular video you could end up owing quite a lot of money if they come after you.
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About 3 years ago I posted a very short video of a friend that was doing sideline announcing at a San Diego Chargers game. According to YouTube this violated copy write. YouTube said I would have my channel shut down if it happened again. I had to watch a video and answer questions to get back access to my YouTube channel.
It’s frustrating to try to do things right and lose business. I do a lot of sports recruiting videos and I never use copy write music on YouTube uploads. I get asked “how come other people can do it” quite often and I frankly don’t know what to tell them. I can’t afford to have my channel shut down so I try to conform.
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Dave P.Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.
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Dave, it’s not any music but rather the fact that it was a San Diego Chargers game. The NFL takes copyright very seriously and comes down hard on anyone who violates their terms.
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Hi Mike—Why would this be allowed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RaepJ6Q2NgThanks
Dave P.Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.
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Dave, this is just a guess on my part but it’s a TV news show clip and they have a lot more latitude than you and I do when it comes to things like this.
I don’t follow sports but if ESPN broadcasts the games that could also give them more latitude. -
I’ll just keep playing by the rules and stay out of trouble!
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Dave P.Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.
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Length plays a factor in whether or not the license holders get irritated enough to pull a YouTube video (and as stated above major sports leagues are hyper vigilant.) How much of the game uncut was in your video that got pulled? A few minutes usually does not get noticed. If you show a TV show clip or sporting event that gets close to ten minutes of uncut footage I think YouTube gives notice by default. There are no official rules to find out what these limits are because YouTube keeps its audio scanning and video scanning bot behind the “proprietary” closed door and they don’t talk about it.
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Hi Dave — I run a record label, and our music is monetized by YouTube. We get our fractions on a penny when our songs appear in videos fans / people upload. Basically, you upload a video with owned music, YouTube does content ID, and pays a little fraction of a cent to whomever owns the music. HOWEVER, if the label or artist does NOT want the video up, they can get it taken down with a DMCA Complaint. I have certain albums BLOCKED, so those videos cannot be uploaded. But it’s varied, depending on the intention of the label and artist.
I think that altering the music to get around the music id software is NOT a cool thing to do. I am figuring you are a creative person; so ask yourself this: would you want somebody to “alter” your video enough so that they could claim it as their own? Probably the answer is “no” because you feel ownership over your own creation. Just as all of us musicians do.
So, use music if you must. But be prepared to have it taken down, IF the owner doesn’t want you using it.
Sam
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Matt–FYI–The clip that YouTube removed from the charger game was a sideline update from my friend and lasted less than 2 minutes.
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Dave P.Intel I7 950, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE, Vegas Pro 10 (32bit/64bit), Windows 7 Pro 64bit, LG WH10LS30 10X Bluray Burner.
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