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  • Size limit by project???

    Posted by Edmundo Ferreira on January 30, 2013 at 9:57 pm

    I’m working on a stereoscopic movie (30 minutes, more or less) in Vegas, editing directly the native DNxHD . mov files. I think I reached a limit by each project (cannot import more clips into), so I made three projects. Is there a way to put together the three projects in only one timeline, i.e. in only one project? Everething else is really fine.

    Windows 7, i7, Nvidia GTX 680, 32 gb ram.

    John Rofrano replied 13 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 21 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    January 30, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    [Edmundo Ferreira] “Is there a way to put together the three projects in only one timeline, i.e. in only one project? “

    You can nest the three projects into a new timeline by dropping the .veg files directly into the timeline of a new project. That will combine all three and allow you to render them as one continuous file.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Edmundo Ferreira

    January 30, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    So, Mr. Rofrano, there is a size limit…
    Thanks for the tip.

  • John Rofrano

    January 30, 2013 at 11:35 pm

    [Edmundo Ferreira] “there is a size limit…”

    There isn’t supposed to be and I’ve certainly never reached it. It should only be bounded by the amount of memory in your PC but apparently not f you’ve reached one. I would ask that questions of Sony because they certainly don’t publish any limits.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • William Mims

    January 31, 2013 at 4:29 am

    John:
    I have always appreciated your advice. I am starting a feature film of +/- 90 minutes in length. I am concerned that Sony Vegas can not handle that much HD (1920×1080) with all the tracks of picture and audio. Plus, I once recorded a funeral that lasted 2 hours. When I tried to make copies in DVD Architect it could not handle the 120 minutes, even in BluRay. The only way I could give the DVD of the funeral to the friend was to break it into three parts and even then Architect said the project was too big for 1920×1080 so I finally had to settle for 1280×720. That sucks. As a film editor in Hollywood, I worked with ten minute reels of film. Is that what I will have to do with a project this long? I can not imagine handing a distributor a deck of DVD BluRays because DVD arch. chokes on anything longer than about ten minutes. Is there some other program out there that can handle a 90 minute Vegas file? DVD Arch. is something Sony should revamp IMHO. And I do not want to rerender any part of the movie because Vegas can not handle it. Since I am using a Sony EX 3 to shoot, is there some Sony format I should use from start to final edited master than will maintain the highest quality possible?

    Mims

  • John Rofrano

    January 31, 2013 at 1:04 pm

    Wow, I have never heard of anyone having these problems nor have I had them myself. I regularly shoot stage performances that are 2 hrs in length and I have no problems editing them in Vegas Pro or creating DVD’s with DVD Architect. If you can describe your workflow in detail, perhaps we can figure out why DVD Architect won’t handle your projects because I do this all he time without any issues.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • William Mims

    January 31, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    I am delighted to hear that. I hope I can resolve why my DVD Arch. won’t accept larger files.
    I have dumped most of archived long projects to make room for the feature so I will get back to you after I run a new test. I know it starts with a: File too large for a DVD disc. Which of course is not true as the DVD will take 4.5 GBs. I remember one project was about 3.9 and it said it was too big. I kept lower the quality bar but it did not help. Are there partitions in DVD Arch that need to be changed?

    Mims

  • Mike Kujbida

    January 31, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Like John, I’ve never had any problems with long form HD projects and some of mine have been 2 hrs. or longer.
    If you get a warning in DVDA about the file size and you know that you’re under the limit, ignore the warning. This is a long time problem and Sony has done nothing about it despite repeated requests. I get this warning all the time, ignore it and DVDA proceeds as if nothing happened.

  • William Mims

    January 31, 2013 at 2:18 pm

    Thanks Mike, However it will not proceed as I tried to ignore it and continue. I wonder what Sony format is best and has the least compression from workflow to DVDA master?

    Mims

  • Mike Kujbida

    January 31, 2013 at 2:26 pm

    [William Mims] ” I wonder what Sony format is best and has the least compression from workflow to DVDA master?”

    I always give DVDA rendered MPEG-2 and AC-3 files and never have any problems other than it telling me that the file is too big.

    If the project is under 70 min., I use a custom CBR of 8,000,000.
    Anything longer and I use a bitrate calculator to determine optimum VBR settings.
    My personal favourite is https://www.johncline.com/bitcalc110.zip.
    I set the Safety margin to 5% just to be on the safe side.

  • Edmundo Ferreira

    January 31, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    “You can nest the three projects into a new timeline by dropping the .veg files directly into the timeline of a new project.”

    Got no lucky with stereoscopic projects…

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