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Rendering for DVD, need advice on settings!
Hi,
I’ve just registered, but first let me thank you all for helping me learn so much about Vegas since I got it three years ago.
Your discussions and answers here have gotten me through a lot of hairpulling over these years, and I’ve been able to push out a few videos that’s quite okay, thanks to you guys.My main reason for getting Vegas is to edit a concert movie for the festival a bunch of friends throw every summer.
We usually have a bunch of cameras filming the stage, and there’s where my problem lies…
I have two main cameras, one film to DV-tape, delivering AVI.
One film to HardDisk, the format is .MOD.
Those are NOT the issue.
The issue is all the hand-held cameras at this years festival.
I’ve got over 80 clips ranging from 30 seconds to 15 minutes, and it’s been a pain to sync it all to the audio-track, but it’s all done – thanks to tips and tricks from here.My problem surfaces when I render to DVD.
I get horizontal stripes when cameras pan or there are movement on stage.
I’ve tried reading and using different render methods and templates, but I’m just not technical enough to quite grasp how it works.My two main problems;
One camera filming in MOV. GSpot says (I don’t know which are the important values, so here’s most of them)
H.264
1920 x 1080
10:35.400 Len
15,885 Frms
46562 kbps
0.898 Qf
1.778 (16:9)
25.000 Frame/sI’ve had to convert that into mpg to get it to work with Vegas, and used AnyVideoConverter.
The result is:
MPEG2
720 x 576
10:34.240
15,856 Frms
6661 kpbs
0.642 Qf
25.000 Frame/sThe other one giving me grief is this one;
Originally mp4, altså converted to mpg, as my pc isn’t really up to handling hd-videoH.264/MPEG-4 AVC
1280 x 720
1:26.280
4,314 Frms
8144 kbps
0.177 Qf
50.000 Frames/s
1.778 (16:9)THe result;
MPEG-2
720 x 576
0:10.840
271 Frms
6424 kbps
0.620 Qf
25.000 Frames/s
1.778 (16:9)My Main camera (Not giving me any problems)
MPEG-2
720 x 576
1:00:56
91,392 Frms
8530 kbps
0.823 Qf
25.000 Frames/sI also have a bunch of .avi files from a DV-camera, and a small bunch of .mts files that won’t show up in G-Spot.
If anyone is able to make sense of this, and give me any pointers so that I can avoid getting those stripes and the almost-pixelation when the camera moves when I watch it on my tv, I will be very grateful…
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Stripes during movement sounds like interlacing problems. Somewhere along the line, you converted something with the wrong field order of did not deinterlace properly.
Why did you use an external converter? Why not convert everything to DV in Vegas? That would have given you a common format for all of the video. In the future, this is the workflow you should use. Convert all of the various footage into a common format of high quality. Make sure that each file converts correctly, and you shouldn’t have any problems. Converting everything to MPEG2 wasn’t a good idea because MPEG2 will not give you the quality that a format like DV would have.
If you converted an 1080i HD MOV file to MPEG2 with AnyVideoConverter it is possible that the interlace problem was introduced there.
The other file giving you problems is 50fps vs 25fps. How was that converted? That was a progressive file so you shouldn’t have interlace problems with it.
In your project properties, what do you have your Deinterlace Method set to?
~jr
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Hi John!
Thank you for taking the time to look at my problem! It is really appreciated.The reason I converted with AVC was that I just wanted to batch convert a lot of files in one go without needing to mess around too much.
I offcourse see that it was foolish. BUT it is possible to rectify, as I can convert these files to correct formats and just point the project to the new files one by one. Will take some time, but I brought that upon myself, didn’t I ? 😉Why I chose MPEG2 was because I thought that would be the best format when I’m rendering to DVD.
As I said my main camerashot is .MOD, then it’s quite a few .AVI from two cams shooting on DV-tape.
And then there’s two HD-cams, one shooting MOV, the other MP4.
The last cam I’ve decided to use clips from ends up as .MTS, and I see now that I’ve converted those to .AVI for some reason or another.The 50fps to 25fps was also converted with AVC, to match the 720×576 of my main camerashot.
I need to check the Deinterlace Method in a bit, as I’m rendering another project at the moment. (that one without any issues, thankfully)
What would be the best format to convert all these files to you recon?
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[Rune Letrud] “What would be the best format to convert all these files to you recon?”
Well, if you’re working in standard definition then I would use DV AVI as my common format. Using MPEG2 would make sense if you were just cutting things together with no color correcting or other FX but if you have to re-render, it is better to re-render from a higher quality format like DV rather than DVD quality MPEG2.
~jr
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Thanks a lot!
I’ll start by converting a couple of the files that I know are giving me grief, and just render a few minutes to see if the results are better. (Which I’m guessing it would be)
Would you advice that I convert ALL files to the same format before I render to DVD, or just the ones being the troublemakers?
Bear in mind that this is just a hobby project, it’s a 4.5 hour concert dvd, and a 1 hour festival-movie cut from the concert with commentary and additional cuts not used during editing of the songs.
It’s to be distributed on YouTube and as DVDs to the musicians (about 50 copies).
So this is no big issue, I’m just trying to get as good a result as possible for my own mental health’s sake, and using this as a learning experience. -
As John said, DV-AVI will be your best bet. MPEG is a delivery format and I would keep the media in DV-AVI up until encoding the MPG for the DVD.
Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
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[John Rofrano] “In your project properties, what do you have your Deinterlace Method set to?”
Deinterlace method is “Blend Fields” and Full resolution rendering quality is set to “Good” (don’t know if that matters?)
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Thank you!
Also, I found my notes and found out why I had used AnyVideoConverter, and that’s because I spent two weeks installing and reinstalling computer and Vegas to get it to handle .MOV.
I still can’t get it to do that, so I don’t know how I can convert to DV-AVI if AVC isn’t usable…
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[Rune Letrud] “Would you advice that I convert ALL files to the same format before I render to DVD, or just the ones being the troublemakers?”
I would just re-do the trouble makers to get you through this project.
~jr
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[Rune Letrud] “Also, I found my notes and found out why I had used AnyVideoConverter, and that’s because I spent two weeks installing and reinstalling computer and Vegas to get it to handle .MOV.”
If you are using a modern version of Vegas Pro after 9.0.e you can use the latest version of QuickTime. If you are using an older that 9.0e version of Vegas Pro you must use QuickTime 7.6.2 or earlier.
~jr
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[Rune Letrud] “Deinterlace method is “Blend Fields” and Full resolution rendering quality is set to “Good” (don’t know if that matters?)”
That’s perfect. Leave them that way.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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