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  • How do I make Velocity Envelopes without affecting Generated Media animations?

    Posted by Mike Sanders on August 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    I have some Generated Media at the start in various animations. I need to “stretch” this intro by approx. double (like make the text come slower and last longer). Everything Google has turned up for me points to using Velocity Envelopes for this. I’ve tried several different ways, but they keep screwing up my Key Points used in the Generated Media animations and completely change the way they look as a result. I really don’t want to have to start over as it took me several hours just to get the animations of the Generated Media like I wanted… all I need is for them to last a bit longer. I’m using version 10, the pro edition.

    Jerry Irving replied 14 years, 9 months ago 4 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Jeff Schroeder

    August 2, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Have you tried stretching? Take off the velocity envelope and drag one edge of the event while holding down the mouse button.

    Jeff

    http://www.narrowroadmedia.com

  • Mike Sanders

    August 3, 2011 at 12:39 am

    This was the first thing that I tried, but since there are several segments of the flying text effects it takes them all out of alignment with each other. Also, the video starts about 4 seconds in and I have no idea how to push that back to 8 seconds without screwing up some later timings involving text and the video later on.

    I put all the text on a separate track by the way.

  • Mike Sanders

    August 3, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Is there a way to link several segments together to be stretched uniformly? I assumed this would be done by creating a Group but it had no visible effect. Even creating a group and then selecting 3 segments would not allow me to resize them all together.

  • Mike Sanders

    August 3, 2011 at 1:27 am

    I also tried deleting everything but the segments I want stretched together, saving that as another project, loading the original project, deleting the original text segments, sliding the rest of the project left several seconds, and drag n drop that 2nd project back onto it. This seemed to accomplish my goal of linking the segments together for the sake of “stretching” supposedly, BUT when I stretched it it didn’t actually slow it down it just made it loop! As if that isn’t bad enough, also one of the zoom effects got screwed up by this so now its zoomed so far on the text you can hardly read it…

  • Stephen Mann

    August 3, 2011 at 3:33 am

    Try using nesting. Put the tracks that you want to stretch in a separate project, save it to a new name, then in the original project drag the new name.veg file to a new track. Stretch that event.

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Mike Sanders

    August 3, 2011 at 3:53 am

    I tried that and it didn’t work properly. Here’s a quote from my other reply with the details of what I did and the results:

    “I also tried deleting everything but the segments I want stretched together, saving that as another project, loading the original project, deleting the original text segments, sliding the rest of the project left several seconds, and drag n drop that 2nd project back onto it. This seemed to accomplish my goal of linking the segments together for the sake of “stretching” supposedly, BUT when I stretched it it didn’t actually slow it down it just made it loop! As if that isn’t bad enough, also one of the zoom effects got screwed up by this so now its zoomed so far on the text you can hardly read it…”

  • Mike Sanders

    August 3, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    .. just sayin.

  • Mike Sanders

    August 5, 2011 at 6:19 am

    At this point, the solution seems to be “start all over”. I guess I can chalk the 2 hours up to a learning experience that I spent making fancy text junk.

  • Jerry Irving

    August 9, 2011 at 5:58 am

    Velocity envelopes are a challenge for me, too. I’ve tried to devise a way to manage the secondary effects, but without complete success.

    That being said, I have an idea that may be useful in this situation:

    There is a technique that may help you modify your keyframes to conform to the secondary effects of using the velocity envelope.

    The Vegas Pro 10 manual describes changing the relative spacing of keyframes via alt-drag:


    1. Click on the first keyframe, hold the Shift key, and click on the last keyframe in the sequence to select all of the keyframes.

    2. Hold Alt and drag the first or last keyframe to scale the keyframes.

    I would think that one could ‘fix-up’ keyframes in a project after applying an event envelope by using the alt-drag technique described above.

    I think that the most important rule in any attempt to ‘fix-up’ keyframes would be to progress from start of project to end of project, chronologically on the timeline.

    Hope this discussion gives you some useful info.
    J

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