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DVD Architect Pro 5.2 – re-rendering??
So I have a video that is 1 hour and 50 minutes long. I can’t condense it any further and it needs to fit on a single layer dvd. Using the DVD Architect template, it ends up being like 5.7 gb, which is too big and would have to be recompressed. So I modified the DVDA template for mpeg2 and lowered the bitrates to:
Maximum bps: 5,000,000
Average: 3,500,000
Minimum: 192,000The end result is a file that is 3gb and looks just fine. Woohoo! Then I drop it in Architect (on a blank, brand new project) and it says “Disc Space Used: 7.1GB” and in the details states that the video will have to be recompressed.
What is the deal? How can I render it correctly from Vegas Pro 10 in order to fit on a standard dvd in Architect?
Thank you for your help!!!!
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8 Replies
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First of all, your bitrate is far too low for decent quality.
I have no idea where you got those numbers but I highly recommend using the bitrate calculator found at https://www.johncline.com/bitcalc110.zip.
Change the Safety Margin to 5% (gives you a bit more “wiggle” room when encoding) and click “1 kilobit = 1000 bits” (click the Settings button on the main screen to see this option.
For a 1 hr. 50 min. video, I get the following VBR numbers for Max, Avg and Min:
9,392 / 5,360 / 3,216
In your head, add 3 more zeros to all numbers.
Please notice that 5,360 is considerably larger than your 3,500 which means better quality.
Limit the first set (Max) to no more than 8,000 no matter what the calculator says.
This is to ensure compatibility with all players as well as cheap media.
Render your project again from Vegas using these numbers and I guarantee that it will fit.
Do it as a 2-pass render to maximize quality.
It will take longer but the result will be worth it.DVDA has a long history of incorrectly reporting file sizes.
I know because it happened to me on my last two projects and I know that I was under the size limit.
When that happens, ignore the warning and DVDA will continue as expected with no further warnings.
Stick to good name brand media like Taiyo-Yuden (the best there is) or Verbatim and your DVDs will look great. -
Thank you very kindly for your help. My settings (extremely low) were out of desperation after trying to encode this on custom settings which DVDA continually wants to re-encode.
Question, where do you access the ‘safety margin’? “Settings” is a very general phrase. In Vegas Pro 10 there is an entire preferences section with multiple tabs, and I did not see safety margin listed within the mpeg2 encoding settings.
Thank you again. Starting my 3rd 2-pass VBR run of the day… Never had so much trouble with DVDA in my life. Will have to start using that bitrate calculator on a regular basis.
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Drake, sorry for the confusion.
I meant the Safety Margin and Settings buttons on the bitrate calculator’s main screen. -
Got it! I just installed the bitrate calculator on all of my editing machines. Plan on using it regularly. I guess I’ve never run into an issue (until now) of DVDA seeing a file as an incorrect size. Hope this is not a trend! Hope there is a patch in the works!
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Glad you got it.
Along with a lot of other folks, I’ve been using that calculator for a long time and its never let me down.Don’t hold your breath waiting for a fix for DVDA as I’ve been asking for a fix for several years 🙁
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You said to limit the “max” to 8000 regardless. How does this relate to the default template within Vegas? That mpeg2 DVDA template has 9,500 at the max. Is that template incorrect?
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Someone else please correct me if you think I’m mistaken but I remember reading a long time ago that 8,000,000 was the recommended limit for home-made DVDs.
I’ve stuck to that rule and have never had a disc returned due to player incompatibility.“That mpeg2 DVDA template has 9,500 at the max. Is that template incorrect?”
As I recall, the upper limit for a DVD is 9,800,000 so that doesn’t leave you too much room once you add in your audio stream.
I’m sure a lot of folks never pay any attention to those numbers and are successful in burning DVDs but, for the reasons I gave above, I stick to the 8M limit. -
I completely understand leaving room for the audio stream. I have never had a DVD returned due to compatibility issues but it is possible. I will stick to that number. Thank you again for your help!
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