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workflow for mts files from canon video camera
recently started filming in hd w/ new/used canon camera in 108060i.. can someone help me with a workflow for editing the footage and then burning to a dvd-r w/o compression to be played on a blue ray player? also, if there is a way to do it so its not compressed and can be played on a dvd player? I’ve tried searched the net and not coming up w/ a good workflow that makes sense.. I have vegas 9 pro and dvd architect 5 … thanks….
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[Jeff Karp] “can someone help me with a workflow for editing the footage and then burning to a dvd-r w/o compression to be played on a blue ray player? also, if there is a way to do it so its not compressed and can be played on a dvd player?”
You have a misunderstanding about compression. There is no way for you to work without compression. HD media is huge when it’s uncompressed and you would need at least 5 hard drives in a RAID 0 array to be able to keep up with the throughput of uncompressed. All video is compressed, and I understand that you don’t want to re-compress it too many times and loose quality. Both Blu-ray and DVD require compression.
As for workflow:
First set your project up correctly. You didn’t say if the camera is HDV (1440×1080) or Full HD (1920×1080). Make sure that you select a project setting that matches the output of your camera. (either HDV 1080-60i (1440×1080, 29.970 fps) or HD 1080-60i (1920×1080, 29.970 fps) respectively)
Then edit as normal in an HD or HDV project. When it comes time to render, Blu-ray and DVD’s work on individual video and audio streams so you want to render the video and audio separately.
Use these settings for HD:
Video: MainConcept MPEG2 with the Blu-ray 1920×1080-60i, 25 Mbps video stream template
Audio: Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro with the Stereo DVD templateUse these settings for DVD:
Video: MainConcept MPEG2 with the DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream template
Audio: Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro with the Stereo DVD templateYou’ll notice that you only have to render the audio once and you can use it in both your Blu-ray and DVD projects in DVD Architect.
Personally I would not mess with making DVD-R for Blu-ray playback. Some players will play it and some won’t. Get yourself a proper Blu-ray burner and make real Blu-ray discs. They are not that expensive anymore.
~jr
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thanks for the info and I’ll give it a shot… the weird thing is that is seems like the video is already gets softer when it gets imported into sony vegas 9.. but maybe its just my imagination.. I’ll give this a shot though… lol… your right .. I was misunderstood about compression.. I know when I play it from the camera to the tv directly it looks fantastic though.. just want to keep that a close as possible…
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[Jeff Karp] ” I know when I play it from the camera to the tv directly it looks fantastic though.. just want to keep that a close as possible…”
Well Vegas Pro will “smart render” HDV. So if the footage is HDV you don’t process the frames in any way, Vegas Pro will place the same frame onto Blu-ray that was on your camera if you render the same format. Once you modify a frame with an FX or Crop, etc. then it has to be re-rendered.
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so if I add a title or try to splice them together.. I’m gong to lose quality? then what is the point of Sony Vegas.. is there software that will let me manipulate these type of file and not lose quality?
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im getting an error when i try to render the main concept dvd
an error occurred while creating the media file xxx.mpg
reason cannot be determine…bummer
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[Jeff Karp] “so if I add a title or try to splice them together.. I’m gong to lose quality? “
If you simply splice them together and render to the same format, you will not loss any quality. It’s only when you do something like add a title that the frame needs to be re-rendered to include the title. How do you expect to add anything without having to recreate the frame with the new additions? That would be impossible.
[Jeff Karp] “then what is the point of Sony Vegas.. “
Sony Vegas is a Non Linear Editor (NLE) for processing video. When you process something you change it in some way. There is nothing wrong with re-rendering. Every NLE on the planet re-renders, even the one’s that Hollywood uses. Rendering is part of creating the final video product.
[Jeff Karp] ” is there software that will let me manipulate these type of file and not lose quality?”
Define “manipulate”. If you mean just cut out the unwanted parts and just stitch the rest together with no transitions, then Sony Vegas Pro will happily do this for certain formats. If you mean process the frames in some way like adding a title then no, no software can do this. Changing frames means re-rendering to include the changes.
The quality loss should be imperceptible. It’s only when you re-render multiple time that you start to see the loss. I wouldn’t worry about a single re-render.
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[Jeff Karp] “an error occurred while creating the media file xxx.mpg
reason cannot be determine… “Wow that doesn’t give you a whole lot to go on. Did it render for a while before it gave you that error? Is there enough room on the hard drive you are rendering to?
~jr
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thanks… for the great info… I fixed my issue w/ render with a reboot
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[Jeff Karp] ” the weird thing is that is seems like the video is already gets softer when it gets imported into sony vegas 9″
If your Preview window is set to anything other than Best/Full, this will happen.
Trying to edit HD footage at this setting can be a problem which is why most of us set it to Preview/Auto.
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