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HD Editing Computer thoughts
Hey, just wondering if anyone could help me. Recently started shooting with DLSR’s, music videos, films running at 50 minutes as well. I need a new computer, for immediate use… our old computer died that we used for HD editing, and we need to get one in the next month! I came across this computer at the below link. Will this be solid for HD video editing in Sony Vegas 10?
I am VERY undecided, if I should go for this:
“phenom six core processor” or an “i7 processor” computer.Would the link get me editing HD footage in vegas 10, smoothly? I don’t care about post-render times, I care about the actual editing process, and making sure the preview window doesnt chug/delay and stutter when im trying to sync dialouge, etc etc Any help or suggestions would be amazing. Thanks for reading this!
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11 Replies
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Phillip,
I have not been happy with AMD processors over the last 5-7 years. I don’t think their current chipsets work well with the nVidia world, something that Sony is optomized for.
Jeff
http://www.narrowroadmedia.com
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I have a Hexacore AMD and love it…no issues here as of yet. I also use a Tri-core AMD Dual core Intel and Quad Core intel….all seem fine. I had more issues with my Quad Core Intel than any other…
If budget is an issues (as it was for me) go with the AMD.Scott Francis
Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions -
Hey Jeff, thanks for the reply,
What about these “all in ones” from HP? See below specs. The specs seem like they could run Vegas and edit HD footage fine. Or are these all-in-ones the biggest NO NO? hahaHP TouchSmart Intel Core i5-460M
Processor Speed 2.53GHz
Processor Cores 2
RAM 8 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM
Graphic card: NVIDIA GeForce G210M -
The AMD Phenom II 6 core processors are currently considered the performance king, but that may not last much longer.
The Intel Sandy Bridge series of CPU’s designated by a leading number 2 e.g. i5 2500 are proving to outperform the current i7 CPU’s in video and encoding. The benchmarks look very promising if you can hold out for a few months. The CPU’s are available, but you might be struggling to find a motherboard as there is a global motherboard recall:
INTEL have issued a worldwide recall of all Socket 1155 motherboards. This recall encompasses all brands of motherboards, desktops, and notebooks using new s1155 based technology. Intel CPUs are not effected.
The ISSUE:
New Intel® 6 Series Chipsets (Sandy Bridge) were released to market in January 2011 as a component integrated with all Socket 1155 motherboards. Intel advise that a design flaw in this chipset may result in performance loss and failure of communication with devices attached to the SATA 2 Ports only. Intel have indicated that about 5% of S1155 motherboards may eventually exhibit this problem over a long period of time, 2-3 years. The chance of the problem occurring increases with use and the short term risk is small.
At least two SATA 3 ports are included on these motherboards and are not effected. Many desktop computers sold by Computer Alliance use the faster SATA 3 ports only and so will not be impacted.
Intel have started production of replacement chips and have advised that replacement stock of motherboards are expected in April. Manufacturers will supply replacement stock to existing customers FIRST!
We have been advised by INTEL that there is unlikely to be any issue in the short term and that customers can use their PCs as normal.
Intel i7 920, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 10 (x32/x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6
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So, I am basically stuck to these two options… thoughts????
Intel Core i5-760
2.8 GHz
8 GBor
AMD Phenom II 1045T Six-Core Processor
2.70 GHz
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Jump the AMD up to the 1090 BE and you will be ROCKING!
Scott Francis
Mind’s Eye Audio/Video Productions -
I bought a system from ibuypower.com in LA, they are an integrator and sell a variety of processors and motherboards, I had them put together a I7, 12gig ram, a few drives and liquid cooling on the chip. very happy with the system.
Malcolm
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I’m very happily using an AMDx6 and a nVidia graphics card — works just dandy. Unless there were some disagreements on PCIe implementation, this should be the case… the software issues were resolved over a decade ago (eg, compatibility between AMD, Intel, and perhaps other x86 ISA processors). Problems pretty much just don’t occur any more.
However, if you like AMD and nVidia, and really want the full nVidia experience, why not get an nForce-based board. That’s nVidia’s own system board chipset, which has been among the best of the various system architectures around. They’re a bit more expensive than a basic AMD or Intel chipset.
Also, currently, Sony software has only a very, very slight nVidia bias. Vegas 10’s Sony AVC plug-in uses nVidia’s GPU acceleration, to deliver about a 5-6% rendering speed improvement, depending on your GPU. Sony currently does nothing with the GPU at runtime.
If you want the absolute best rendering or runtime performance, buy a six core i7. That’s it, end of discussion, the fastest x86 processor you can get for a single socket motherboard. The higher end i7s benefit from a three channel on-chip memory interface, which helps keep a busy multi-core chip well fed. The very latest Intel CPU core is a bit more powerful than the AMD, but this is also very dependent on the code you’re running and the clock speeds involved. And in most of the benchmarks, you’ll find the Intel pulls ahead on some gaming benchmarks, but they’re closer when it comes to video work.
In short, the AMD is a good value if you’re not looking at the very top of the line. I did my upgrade last fall, when my Intel Core2 Quad 2.83MHz 9550 motherboard when to that great rendering farm in the sky… this is fairly comparable to the better i5s or lower i7s, again, very dependent on what you’re doing.
The replacement AMDx6 1090T (top of the line AMD, CPU for under $200) renders between 1.5x and 2x faster, depending on what I’m doing. Runtime is also much smoother.
Honestly, had my motherboard upgrade been my choice, I probably would have gone for the x6 Intel… I definitely would have waited for the next generation higher-end Intels and the AMD Bulldozer chips, neither out yet. But given the price and performance issues, I’m very happy with the AMDx6.
-Dave
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I would definitely upgrade to the AMD 1090T “Black Edition”… these only cost $199 or so, stand-alone, so it shouldn’t be that much more of a premium over the 1045T. The “Black Edition” designation means that the chip can be legally overclocked (eg, no evil hacks necessary).
I don’t usually advocate overclocking, but it’s an absolute truth that every 1090T can be run at 3.3GHz, thus saving yourself $40 over the 1100T. And this is a fast chip, and while you might pick a different processor for gaming, this is very nicely suited to video work.
If you do wind up doing things that are inherently single-tasking, both the AMDs and at least the Intel i7s do a clock-boost thing.. they’ll basically put some cores to sleep, and overclock the remaining cores on demand. This is, for example, why the i7/720 used in laptops is actually a fast chip, even at a rating of 1.6GHz… it will automatically boost the clock speed to 2.8GHz or thereabouts, depending on the demand. You don’t notice power use as much on the desktop, but similar things are happening with all modern chips… they either go slower when not being pushed, or faster when there’s work to do, depending on the point of view.
-Dave
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what you think of the spects on this machine???? i willy ONLY be using this machine to run sony vegas, no other program will be on it. editing HD footage.
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