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  • CUDA GPU not used

    Posted by Frederic Baumann on September 29, 2010 at 9:08 pm

    Hi,

    I am trying to make Vegas Movie Studio Platinum HD 10 use my GTX 460 GPU.
    So, using the Sony AVC encoder, with the check box de-activating GPU unchecked (so GPU should be activated), I start a rendering.

    In parallel, I am running the TechPowerUp GPU-Z utility, which shows the GPU activity, and I can see that the GPU load is 0%!

    So it looks like my GPU is not used while rendering – which might be true because rendering times are very close when the GPU checkbox is checked or unchecked.

    I have also installed the TmpGenc 4 XPress software (a CUDA-enabled video encoding software), and it says that for GTX460 (and some other recent nVidia Cuda cards), version 3 of Cuda should be used instead of older ones. And when I do so, and encode videos with this software, then I see the GPU load increasing significantly.

    Finally, I have read that Badaboom (another CUDA-enabled video encoder) does not support the same recent Cuda-based cards (the ones with Fermi architecture).

    So I wonder if Movie Studio would not work only with Cuda version older than 3.

    Any ideas???

    Thanks for your feedback,
    Frédéric


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    Dean Malbrath replied 14 years, 2 months ago 10 Members · 16 Replies
  • 16 Replies
  • Matt Crowley

    September 30, 2010 at 9:37 am

    I believe CUDA with Fermi (GTX400 series) cards requires the newest drivers to work properly. If you don’t have driver version 197 or later, try upgrading the drivers.

  • Frederic Baumann

    October 2, 2010 at 11:37 am

    Hi,

    I have made the tests with a 298.xx driver, which officially supports the GTX460.

    I have also installed the beta 260.63 driver (supporting CUDA 3.2), and the GPU load still stays at 0% while rendering under Vegas Movie Studio Platinum HD 10.

    Apart from this, I can get the GPU loaded at 99% with test CUDA samples, so the driver and CUDA seem to work properly, except for Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum HD 10.

    So, if one could have any further suggestions, I would appreciate. I have no answer from the Sony support so far – I have asked them to confirm that the GTX 460 was really supported for CUDA-based rendering.

    Thanks in advance!
    Frédéric


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  • Kurt Gerster

    October 6, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    I have the same problem with a GT240 based card. Other software is using CUDA (like Splash etc.). But not Sony Vegas 10 HD.

    The “Magic Bullet” plug-ins make use of CUDA (so there is at least one benefit), but not Sony Vegas 10 HD. Another user reported that his GT220 based card didn’t work as well.

    Frederic, if you get a reply from the Sony Support would you please post it here?

    Thank you.

  • Frederic Baumann

    October 6, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Bad news, but interesting. Thanks!

    Yes I will share the feedback.

    Actually I received an answer yesterday, they say that they are not aware of Cuda issues with the GTX460 – but this does not say that they tested it. I re-asked my question once again, waiting for a new answer.

    Frédéric


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  • Kurt Gerster

    October 9, 2010 at 4:03 am

    I got a replay from the support today (which did not really answer my question):

    Thank you for your e-mail. Normally the acceleration using a CUDA GPU is just about 5 – 20%. But we are very interested in your opinion, so you can fill in our product proposal form:

    https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/support/productsuggestion.asp

  • Todd Brisson

    October 10, 2010 at 2:44 pm

    I’m having the same issue with my GTX460, I see no appreciable gain in speed with CUDA enabled and I see no % increase in my GPU monitor’s reading. However, I did notice that AVC rendering will crash after around 10 minutes of footage is encoded if I do not check “cpu only” in the AVC custom settings. There is definitely some sort of bug associated with this card.

    I previously had an ATI card installed, but I did a complete uninstall and even purged registry settings and reinstalled Vegas to rule out any driver related issues.

  • James Robertson

    November 26, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    Hello,

    Not sure if you found a solution to this, but I think I have.

    I looked at the posts of hacks to get unsupported cards working in adobe premier cs5, and oddly enough following steps 2 and onwards from this: https://blog.krama.tv/hacking-adobe-premiere-cs5-to-enable-more-nvidia-cuda-cards/ works!

    I monitored my graphics card with msi afterburner and it shows it using 30% gpu usage while previewing video.

    Anyway seeing as this was the only site that came up when I googled for a solution, I thought I’d let you know what I’d found.

    Cheers,
    James

  • Frederic Baumann

    November 26, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Many thanks James for this feedback. Actually, meanwhile I have switched to Vegas Pro, and I don’t fully remember what was the outcome of my tests on Platinum. With Vegas Pro, I can see the GPU used at 10-12% when rendering to AVC/MP4 with the Sony AVC plugin.

    At the time of my tests I evaluated Premiere Pro, and like you I had to apply the hack you mention to see Premiere Pro work with my GTX460.

    What surprises me is that, as far as I remember, GPU CUDA acceleration is only used for AVC rendering in Platinum, so it should not be used during preview (unfortunately). Maybe the 30% workload you see applies to GPU-only, not CUDA (I am not an expert of nVidia cards, but I believe that there are other processing powers than the CUDA cores in a nVidia card).

    I am not in front of my NLE PC right now, but I should have the time to make a test of what you recommend, on Vegas Pro tomorrow, and will let you know what I get.

    Thanks again,
    Frédéric


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  • Brian Murphy

    December 22, 2010 at 2:10 am

    I’m evaluating Vegas MS HD Platinum 10.0 when rendering AVC. On a Win7Pro 32-bit system it isn’t utilizing the Nvidia Quadra 600 cuda card (latest drivers from nvidia installed) as reported by CPU-Z under either “Render As” or “Burn Blu-ray” encoding.

    I’m also evaluating Nero 10.0 (which similarly doesn’t seem to use cuda for rendering except in the Vision ‘export’ process and I have a query in to them). I’ve sent a query into Sony. Hopefully they won’t say ‘we haven’t tested the card yet’ as I bought the card to accelerate encoding. In the meantime, I’ll look into the steps James posted earlier in this thread.

  • Al Bergstein

    December 22, 2010 at 6:33 am

    Frederic, what was your impression of Adobe having used both? Is it worth the switch in time and effort?

    Alf

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