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Vegas Crash During Rendering
Posted by Hunter Chambers on June 27, 2010 at 8:20 pmMy vegas 9.0e program has been having a problem with crashing while rendering video. I’m rendering avi. clips into wmv. the vids 25 secs.
the video previewer showing the current rendering position acts normal and so does the percent remaining bar when i start the render. The rendering goes by very fast, but when it reaches the end on the previewer, the status bar is only at 51 percent. Then Vegas crashes.
I’ve tried setting RAM preview to 0, rendering thread to 1, and even experimented it without any plugins. I’ve saved from one drive to another, one drive being USB. both drives have over 50 gbs of storage so that shouldn’t be a problem.
Please help, thanx.
John Rofrano replied 15 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies -
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John Rofrano
June 28, 2010 at 11:17 amI hate to say this but I’m seeing a lot of problems with people trying to render WMV with Vegas Pro 9.0. Personally I don’t use the format (it’s old and proprietary and there are better cross-platform alternatives like MP4) but I would render to AVI first and then use Microsoft’s Media Encoder to make the WMV file.
I know it should just work from inside Vegas but I read a lot of posts here that makes me think something is not right with Vegas 9 and WMV files.
~jr
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Mark Davey
September 7, 2010 at 8:27 amHi
I have 9.0e and a quad core processor Dell XPS, Win 7 64x and 8G RAM & 1TB RAID. I have a 1h45 min three camera recording of a concert I gave and having built the thing, want to render to DVD, BluRay and also (for a laugh) an iPod version.
However I cannot get Vegas to render it as it continually crashes (bombs out) either when rendering alone or via my network (3pcs). Even when I render in parts it can’t manage it. I also regularly get BSODs which is even more irritating.
Two of the cameras are full HD, one AVCHD (which is still in orig format).
It has been suggested converting the AVCHD to MPEG2 might be a good thing. Will this reduce the crashing???
Anything else I can do????
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John Rofrano
September 7, 2010 at 12:08 pmI also regularly get BSODs which is even more irritating.
No application can cause a BSOD. This can only be caused by system drivers. You have a problem with your PC that you need to fix. It may be triggered by Vegas stressing the system but it’s the system that is broken.
It has been suggested converting the AVCHD to MPEG2 might be a good thing. Will this reduce the crashing???
It might and it’s worth a try but you need to figure out why your system is giving you the BSOD.
~jr
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Mark Davey
September 7, 2010 at 12:46 pm@John: Technically you are right – applications don’t generate BSODs but they DO indirectly. It is quite possible that there may be memory, data, processing issue, but given my XPS is rocksolid on Win7x64Ultimate *except* when rendering video in Vegas… I use Sibelius *a lot* (and I mean, a lot) the graphics demand is probably equally as high, and no problems. So I suspect, whilst the BSOD is possibly a consequence, it is most definitely related to Vegas.
Another forum poster has also suggested that the combination of AVCHD and Full HD in the same project is a bad mix. Odd, but I will try the conversion to something else (mxf was suggested). I have only used my AVCHD in projects in the past which were never very long (short diving videos) so the problem never really appeared.
Thanks for your thoughts tho.
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John Rofrano
September 7, 2010 at 8:57 pmSo I suspect, whilst the BSOD is possibly a consequence, it is most definitely related to Vegas.
Yes, that’s what I thought said that Vegas could stress the system but the fix is to understand what system driver is causing the problem. The BSOD gives you two clues. The first is the error message near the top of the screen (all in CAPS). What does that say? The second is the file name and STOP code at the bottom of the screen. What does that say?
Another forum poster has also suggested that the combination of AVCHD and Full HD in the same project is a bad mix.
I have edited hour+ long multi-camera videos mixing AVCHD and HDV on the same timeline (and the same master track!) and had no problems. Yes, mixing formats is worse than using the same format but it should not cause BSOD’s.
Converting everything to Cineform may help a lot. It is far less CPU intensive.
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Mark Davey
September 22, 2010 at 9:49 amJohn, thanks for your help – and apologies for delay in response (there is a day job too… 8-( )
I continued to experience BSODs and ‘normal’ crashes in Vegas, so I did split the project into sections (which also was less than successful). However, when doing so I noticed a marker problem (having saved as, then cutting the 2nd half) all the markers from the second half were shifted into a block at the end of the first half. But ignored it.
The half did not render. However, when I removed all the unnecessary markers (I had well over 100 of them in the entire project), lo and behold, the thing rendered (into a mpeg2) format.
Following this ‘mad idea’ I repeated the process on the second half that *that* has now rendered. I wonder if there is a problem with rendering markers (numbered?) > 100??? Not really bothered now – but am very happy to have resolved a potential issue.
My question though now is, you mentioned Cineform. Having done a quick search it’s not something I know anything about and there is no template in Vegas (unless it’s got a completely different name?). Can you enlighten me???
Thanks again for your patience and help!
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John Rofrano
September 22, 2010 at 10:10 amMy question though now is, you mentioned Cineform. Having done a quick search it’s not something I know anything about and there is no template in Vegas (unless it’s got a completely different name?). Can you enlighten me???
The CineForm codec was shipped with Vegas 6, 7 & Pro 8. It now must be purchased separately if you want to use it with Vegas Pro 9.0 (CineForm NeoScene is $99 USD). This is why you won’t find any templates in Vegas Pro 9, but they can be found in 6 – 8 under Video for Windows with the name “intermediate” in them.
CineForm is a digital intermediary that is near lossless, can stand up to multiple renders, and is very light on the CPU. It’s a perfect format for editing HD smoothly, working with 3rd party applications, or archiving.
~jr
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