Jim – I simply got the crystals in their initial position and then made them editable. After that they were all placed in a fracture object where I could randomize the rotation.

I’ve got a solution, but mostly curious if there’s a way to manipulate the child cloner without having to resort to making it editable. Thanks again for the help and interest. Kevin

You’re right. Sorry I uploaded the wrong file. The previous one was the solution I came up with. I’d still like to know if it’s possible to do this with the original setup – now attached. Thanks, Kevin

Here’s the file if you want to take a look. Thanks, Kevin

Jim – thanks for the response. I think you are showing random rotation of a single strand. I am hoping to rotate all of them after using a second cloner object in the radial mode. I am able to do what you’ve shown, but can’t create the randomness I need in the second cloner.

I’m creating a chandelier with multiple crystals. The child cloner is in Object Mode where I have instances of a crystal object positioned along a spline. This cloner is a child of a cloner in Radial Mode where I rotate 47 copies. I’d like to add some randomized rotation to the individual crystals. When I add a random effector to the child clo… Read more